Mansion players discussion

    • zivkoleo
      zivkoleo
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 215
      Like many of you I also received the second bankroll from Mansion last week.
      I play FL 0.10/0.20 Shorthanded
      I noticed CoreySteel playing a lot. :)

      The thing is last week I was playing very good with winrate 5 BB/100. And then I noticed the players became insanely tight and passive. and my downswing began :( I think that my play isn't definitely not the problem, because after a loosing session on Mansion these days I play on Party Poker(FL FR) and every session I play there I end up winning.

      Any recommendations, tips for Mansion play?
      (CoreySteel? I see you're running quite well. )
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    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      Let's discuss on how bad the paltform is.
    • zivkoleo
      zivkoleo
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 215
      So what experience did you have?
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      This is copyed from my blog.

      Conversion rate is confusing.
      To many SSSers.
      To many tags.
      It's not that fishy.
      Bad blind structures.
      Bad blind time raisers.
      Freezes when I open a new tables.
      Little volume of players.
      Can't re-size tables.

      I think that's enough reasons, haha.
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Hey zivko, what's your nickname on Mansion?

      Yeah, I'm running pretty hot at the moment. Didn't have a loosing session for about 10 days now.
      There are some more TAGs around, because PS.com players are coming, but there are still PLENTY of fishes. You can find them almost on every table. Just use HUD to spot them. Shouldn't be hard.
      In one hour session I change about 15 tables for sure. I stay on a table until fishes bankrupt or when tables break apart.
      But don't play in the morning and after 1 or 2 AM. Best time at Mansion is around 17-23 CET. Almost every table at 0.1/0.2 FL SH has +50% players on flop which means at least one fish at a table :)

      About platform itself...
      When I open a new table, Mansion sometime freezes.
      Every 2 days or so I get some disconnections.

      Everything else seems fine for me.
      I'll deposit money on April if nothing goes wrong in next month or so.
    • zivkoleo
      zivkoleo
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 215
      Thanks for the tips Corey :D My nick is cLipus.
      Do you have messenger (Live MSN)or something. I'd really like to exchange som eopinions with you :spade:

      The first six days I also didn't have a losing session I went up $28 + $10Bonus But the last three days have been a hell I'm down to +$4 +$10 +$7(Omaha) X(
      And on what tables do you usually sit at AveragePot( +50%) and PlayerPerFlop

      PS> I checked my PokerTracker stats. I have won from you incredible 15 Cents. OMG :D :D
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      No, I'm not using any chat related software. Well maybe IRC only...

      I never look at AveragePot - this stat is (almost) useless. Player per flop is the only important stat to look for. And of course higher is better. 60-65 means there are 2 fishes at that table.

      My rules/tips:
      1. I never join table if it has less than 55% Players per flop.
      2. I go off the table if I don't have at least on fish on my right or second right.
      3. I sometimes stay at table even if above rule (#2) doesn't fit, but there must be one maniac with 60VPIP/40PFR/2AF.
      4. I go off the table if it has less than 4 players.

      Fish at 0.1/0.2 FL SH for me is someone who has +60VPIP. Actually that is all I am looking for. A limping player.
      Also you can spot players who call with bottom 5th pair really easily.

      I have 250 hands of yours in my DB. Sample size is rather small, but you have only 12% PFR, and AF "only" 1.5. Guess you didn't hit enough hands.
    • zivkoleo
      zivkoleo
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      @Corey
      These are my stats:
      VPIP 27.17
      PFR 17.83
      AF 2.16
      W$WSF 38.29
      W$SD 55.37
      Tell me what you think...
      And I'll definitely use your rule 1.:)
    • zivkoleo
      zivkoleo
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      With the tips of Corey these two days I'm rulling the tables ;) Thanks.
    • pokeralle
      pokeralle
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      Joined: 29.10.2008 Posts: 269
      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      My rules/tips:
      1. I never join table if it has less than 55% Players per flop.
      Too bad there are almost never any tables above 25% ppf at NL10.

      Good rule though. :)
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      I was talking about FL SH because OP plays FL SH.
      Don't care about NL :D
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Originally posted by zivkoleo
      @Corey
      These are my stats:
      VPIP 27.17
      PFR 17.83
      AF 2.16
      W$WSF 38.29
      W$SD 55.37
      Tell me what you think...
      And I'll definitely use your rule 1.:)
      Didn't notice this before... To be hones, I don't know what is actually good. I asked this a few times already, but I always forget :D

      I can only give you my stats to compare, until some more competent persons sees this.

      14515 hands
      VPIP 20,3
      PFR 15,6
      AF 2,3
      WtSDwsF 34,0
      W$wsF 33,3
      W$@SD 57,1

      Man... I'm a nit. I would never guess I have only 20,3 VPIP and 15,6 PFR....
      But it looks like it works for me...

      The only thing I know I am bad at is defending my blinds...
      Fold SB 86,8
      Fold BB 74,2
    • Jonaton
      Jonaton
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      Joined: 05.10.2008 Posts: 237
      The bonus is great, and easy to clear but once done I can't imagine staying there. I have never had the problems with disconects I have there and I have played at a lot of sites now. Either way a second capital can never be a bad thing.
    • Sholomo
      Sholomo
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      Joined: 18.04.2007 Posts: 32
      Whole ipoker makes me sick lately. I use tableratings site for table selection and usually there are only few "fishy" tables compared to FTP or pokerstars, and if there is any, it is almost always full of shortstacks (i am talking about NL 50). 4 months ago when i moved from FR to SH it was much more friendly and shortstack free tables.