[NL2] call river mss

    • SkillfulAlex
      SkillfulAlex
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      888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 19.57, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 46)
      UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 63.89, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
      UTG+1: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 14.06, PFR: 9.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.38, Hands: 501)
      MP: 106 BB (VPIP: 12.06, PFR: 4.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 142)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 12.12, Hands: 96)
      CO: 230 BB (VPIP: 13.93, PFR: 2.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.88, Hands: 364)
      BTN: 192.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 8.93, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 112)
      Hero (SB): 39 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:spade: A:spade:

      UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

      Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) A:club: K:spade: J:diamond:
      Hero bets 4.5 BB, UTG calls 4.5 BB

      Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG checks

      River: (18 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

      UTG shows 7:club: Q:diamond: (Straight, Ace High)
      (Pre 33%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
      Hero mucks T:spade: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
      (Pre 67%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
      UTG wins 28.5 BB

      préflop : raise for value limp of vilain limp means weakness

      flop : cbet

      turn: with my low kicker I decided to make the Control pot

      rivier :double pair excellent pot odds for view the showdown

      River I'm not on my action my reasoning is correct ?

      sorry my english is not very good but i learn this language :)
  • 4 replies
    • la55i
      la55i
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      I don't think you have to worry about the strength of your kicker so much since villain just limp called pre. I would continue betting OTT.
      And as played I think you could just bet fold the river. You still have a top pair vs a limper and you bet only once so I think in general you might be missing some value here.
    • Spidey1978
      Spidey1978
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      Originally posted by la55i
      ...I would continue betting OTT.
      And as played I think you could just bet fold the river. ...
      If hero had 2nd barrelled the turn, would you fire a 3rd (bet/fold) on the river or check/crying call?
    • SDK1987
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      UTG is a fish as well. I would Cbet around 6bb and if you bet more you can even consider shoving the turn for value. Now I would bet the turn as well with the intention to shove on a blank river card.

      As played I would make a thin value bet and fold on a shove. Now you get nice odds to call and to bad he has a Q now. Also I recommend removing the outcome of the hand next time or put it in a spoiler.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • la55i
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      Originally posted by Spidey1978
      Originally posted by la55i
      ...I would continue betting OTT.
      And as played I think you could just bet fold the river. ...
      If hero had 2nd barrelled the turn, would you fire a 3rd (bet/fold) on the river or check/crying call?
      I wouldn't feel very comfortable in firing a third barrel OTR when any Q makes a straight.
      When villain limp calls pre and just calls postflop he seems a bit passive. So I think he wouldn't bluff that often OTR if we check -> check folding might be a good option. But I guess I still like the idea of making a very small bet, something like 30% of the pot. We get value from weaker 2 pair hands and maybe from some random Ax and then we can fold vs a raise.