[NL2] OverPair facing raise OTT

    • Dre4mBl00d
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      Hi guys!

      PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 243 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      CO: 41.5 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 14)
      Hero (BTN): 100.5 BB
      SB: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
      BB: 173 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.03, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 60)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.44, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 2.00, Hands: 148)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:spade:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BB calls 8 BB, CO calls 6 BB

      Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 3:spade: 9:club: Q:diamond:
      BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 18 BB, BB calls 18 BB, fold

      Turn: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
      BB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, BB raises to 146 BB and is all-in, Hero ???

      I think bet flop is ok because we are in mw and we can charge draws or top pairs
      OTT, i don't don't know how the best option... bet small to fold to a raise ? check to pot control?

      Thanks for your opinion !!! :f_drink:
  • 10 replies
    • la55i
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      Both calling and folding are decent options imo. Since this is NL2 and this kind of raises usually tend to be way too value heavy, I think folding would be slightly better. I would say villain is never doing this with weaker value hand and I don't see that many bluffs in his range either.

      I think those bet sizes need to be adjusted. This is a 3bet pot so standard cbet size would be half pot. Now you are multiway and the board is dry -> villains will fold way more often -> choose even smaller sizing.
      By sizing your bets like this you would have left about 40bb OTR in a pot of 125bb.
    • nitrol
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      Nothing good about calling here...
      Fold and move on. Villain cold called your 3b pre, board is not that connected and the turn push shows power.
    • SDK1987
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      The sizing in this hand is most likely the issue. If you bet like half pot on the flop you don’t get committed yet with a half pot bet on the turn. Now you need to call only 42,5bb to win a pot of 148,5 (63,5+42,5*2) bb and then you need only 28,6% equity to win this hand and against a regular on NL2 you most likely against a set or something and is folding still the best option. If he’s capable to overplay Qx this would be an easy call. Reads are crucial in decisions like this I think.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • arvis77
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      Sdk1987 thats true . :) aces is a good hand you need to make a bigger profit:)
    • SDK1987
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      Originally posted by arvis77
      Sdk1987 thats true . :) aces is a good hand you need to make a bigger profit:)
      Not sure what this has to do with my comment, but fair enough :f_rolleyes:
    • nitrol
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      The only note is: Aces is a good hand...PREFLOP! :)
    • CucumbaMan
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      Yeah, that's right do not get to attached to your pocket aces, especially in post flop allin situations at the micros. As you mentioned above, villain is probably holding a set and you are dead.
    • SDK1987
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      Originally posted by nitrol
      The only note is: Aces is a good hand...PREFLOP! :)
      That for sure and easy to lose a big pot with post-flop if you can’t fold it.
    • Ichorid
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      I think the hand was well-played, c-bet flop + turn and fold to raise. Only the flop bet sizing needs adjustment as others noted above. Checking back would give Villain a free card which might be good when you have the nuts but you want to value bet with AA.
    • Spud1
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      Not nice spot - Very hard to fold AA in 3bet pot for me. But villains are more honest in 3BP. Don't really see this as being a pure bluff given his stats. Is there anything you beat which he does this with - not sure that AQ or KK plays this way. If they do its a call, otherwise a fold