[NL20-NL50] NL 20 SH, AQs squeeze play (massive fail)

    • Dragar
      Dragar
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Known players: 
      SB:
      $2.60
      Hero:
      $19.85
      MP3:
      $21.45
      CO:
      $2.90
      BU:
      $21.75

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:club: , Q:club:
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BU calls $1.00, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $7.00, MP3 raises to $21.45 (All-In), CO calls $1.90 (All-In), BU folds, SB calls $1.60 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Flop: ($34.95) 5:diamond: , 7:heart: , 9:diamond:
      Turn: ($34.95) J:heart:
      River: ($34.95) 8:diamond: (3 players)
      MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $20.50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows two pairs, sevens and fives (5s 7s)
      MP3 shows high card ace with king kicker (Ks As)
      CO shows a pair of jacks (Kc Jd)

      SB wins with two pairs, sevens and fives (5s 7s)

      Well that didn't go as planned.

      Advice?
  • 4 replies
    • generals007
      generals007
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.09.2007 Posts: 578
      You can play as played imo but you could also fold pf if you don't want to squeeze vs 4.
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      i call a certain percentage and squeeze a certain percentage as it's suited it plays well multiway so in this case i am more inclined to call. Good fold once he 4bets you.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      Originally posted by Dragar
      Known players: 
      SB:
      $2.60
      Hero:
      $19.85
      MP3:
      $21.45
      CO:
      $2.90
      BU:
      $21.75

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:club: , Q:club:
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BU calls $1.00, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $7.00, MP3 raises to $21.45 (All-In), CO calls $1.90 (All-In), BU folds, SB calls $1.60 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Flop: ($34.95) 5:diamond: , 7:heart: , 9:diamond:
      Turn: ($34.95) J:heart:
      River: ($34.95) 8:diamond: (3 players)
      MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $20.50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows two pairs, sevens and fives (5s 7s)
      MP3 shows high card ace with king kicker (Ks As)
      CO shows a pair of jacks (Kc Jd)

      SB wins with two pairs, sevens and fives (5s 7s)

      Well that didn't go as planned.

      Advice?
      I kind of disagree with the above. The plan should always be to squeeze for FE and value, and once the raiser pushes over the top, you would have to fold AQs here, you are behind or flipping at the very best.

      The bad think about a squeeze here is that even if the raiser folds, the short stacks, who obviously know shit about anything, are always calling for the rest of their stack with whatever they hold. If they knew how to fold, they wouldn't call for a third of a stack in the first place against a raiser. So you have little chance of folding everyone out, which is what you are trying to achieve.

      Therefore, you get no value really, at best isolating two fish with no money, and flipping against trash hands that often outdraw you.

      Given the preflop odds, I wouldn't mind calling preflop for nearly 1:5. You can get a monster often enough that you will be able to stack the raiser post flop.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      You can call, consider that there a lot of shortstacks, but 3-bet/folding is also fine line to take when big stack pushes.