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[NL2-NL10] NL10 FR (SSS) K,Qo

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      BB:
      $2
      MP1:
      $1.85
      SB:
      $3.05
      Hero:
      $1.80
      MP2:
      $10
      BU:
      $9.85
      CO:
      $14.02

      0.05/0.10 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:heart: , Q:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0.90) Q:spade: , T:heart: , T:spade: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.73, SB calls $0.53.

      Turn: ($2.36) 3:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($2.36) A:heart: (2 players)
      SB bets $1.92 (All-In), Hero raises to $0.67 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $4.95

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows [ 9h, 8d ] a pair of Tens
      Hero shows [ Kh, Qd ] two pairs, Queens and Tens
      SB wins $1.25 USD with a pair of Tens.
      Hero wins $3.52 USD with two pairs, Queens and Tens.

      Strange hand. Don't know whether my instinct to call on the River was right. Couldn't put my opponent on a hand. In fact, he had nothing. But was my play too risky without stats? I know I'm not supposed to give results but I can't fathom villain's play and maybe I'm missing something?
  • 10 replies
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      To be honest Tim i wouldn't have played this hand from MP at all as the SHC states to play it from LP/Blinds.

      As it was played after his min bet on the flop i would have just pushed on the flop as any raise leaves you pot commited anyway.

      Regards,

      -Steve
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Hi Steve,

      Thanks for this. What you say about just pushing after his minraise makes sense.

      I guess, though, that since the table was 7-handed for this hand, my MP3 is actually late position, so the pfr is ok? In your answer, where you say "i would have pushed just pushed pre-flop", is the second bit a typo?

      Cheers mate,

      T
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      Hey Tim,

      The typo has now been corrected :D .

      As for the table being 7-handed instead of 9/10 handed you would still be considered as MP.

      Example.

      On a 9 handed table you would have SB, BB, EP1, EP2, MP1, MP2, MP3, CO, BTN.

      If they table drops down to 7-handed then you just have SB, BB, MP1, MP2, MP3, CO, BTN.

      I hope this helps.

      Regards,

      -Steve
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Hey Steve,

      I think I see what you mean, but just let me check:

      The less good your hand is, the later the position you need to play it, as I understand it. So, if you are normally advised to raise K,Qo in LP (CO or BU) then that must be because, theoretically, there are at most 3 players after you who could have a better hand (BU, SB and BB).

      What you're saying is that the fact that there are less players in front of me (because the table is short-handed) doesn't change the fact that, at the time I raised, there were still 4 players to come after me, which is why it was risky to make the raise. Is that right?

      Thanks again,

      Tim
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      Yeah that's correct Tim although there are still 4 to act and not 3, CO, BTN, SB, BB.

      Regards,

      -Steve
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Yep - 4 players to act as I played it (from MP3). But in Late Position, there would only be 3 to act?

      That's what I meant - I was trying to distinguish between what I should have done (2nd para) and what I did do (3rd para).

      Tim
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      Yeah thats right, sorry Tim my mistake.

      Regards,

      Steve
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      fold preflop

      as played push flop
      as played push turn
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Thanks guys - you keep me on the straight and narrow!

      Tim
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      CO & BTN stays whether it is a 10 handed game or 6 handed game ...

      Fold KQ next time on Mp3, horrible hand after all :D

      as played either reraise to $0.6 postflop or shove. I prefer reraising to $0.6

      Best regards,
      Gerv