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[NL10] OESD with paired board, do implied odds make this an +EV call?

    • BossYac
      BossYac
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      Joined: 29.11.2017 Posts: 6
      The response I got on my last post was great, so I hoping for good advice again. Please let me know what you think of my play.

      NL10 (+16.13)
      ~$6.00 effective size, Hero in CO

      Hero: :Qs: :Jd:

      Preflop
      UTG limps, LJ raises 0.45, Hero calls, BB, UTG complete

      Flop :9d: :9s: :6s: (1.85)
      Checked around

      Turn :Td: ($4.61)
      BB bets $0.92, UTG calls, Hero?

      River :Kh:
      BB bets $2.30, UTG calls, Hero shoves, everyone calls
      Hero wins K-high straight, $16.13
  • 8 replies
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      It looks like everyone was playing with around 60bb stack. That’s low for a cash game.

      Pre-flop calling in position seems fine to me. The turn pot size looks wrong without any action on the flop and I expect villain is betting half pot. With the odds you get after the call of the BB is decent with only 4 clean outs. There are 2 flush draws possible and is the call close I think, because sometimes you are already drawing dead against a full house.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • la55i
      la55i
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      You need 19% equity to call. You would have that if all of your outs were clean. Now full houses are possible and half of the cards that complete your straight also complete a possible flush. So you have reverse implied odds. I would just fold.
    • lfcmichael
      lfcmichael
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      Joined: 30.10.2016 Posts: 166
      I’m also confused. It seems that there must’ve been a flop bet of $0.92, because the pot is bigger and one player has been lost. Depending on what happened there, I think I would probably have considered folding on the flop.
    • la55i
      la55i
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      I assumed the pot is same than OTF, but if the pot is indeed 4.61$ then it changes things. Then we need only 12%.
    • nitrol
      nitrol
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      Joined: 24.07.2010 Posts: 12,001
      If the effective stacks are around 60BB than this is a clear fold preflop!
    • LacsapR
      LacsapR
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      Do we really want to call here PRE with QJo with BU, SB, BB behind us that could come up with a squeeze?
      Basicly vs an early position open raise we only have a good change to win this pot with a straight as villain has a lot AQ, AJ , KJ, KQ in his range that beat us?
    • BossYac
      BossYac
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      Joined: 29.11.2017 Posts: 6
      Thanks for the replies, I've taken the advice and am playing tighter preflop.
    • nitrol
      nitrol
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      Joined: 24.07.2010 Posts: 12,001
      You do not have to fight for every pot. By tightening your preflop game you will lessen the opportunity to get in an awkward situation postflop. Such situations are complicated and mostly lead to losing money.