[NL10] AQs ~ Laydown #4

    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,308
      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $22.05 (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 31)
      SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 38.71, PFR: 38.71, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 31)
      BB: $21.17 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      Hero (UTG): $10.59
      MP: $22.50 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 19.29, PFR: 15.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 143)

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:spade: Q:spade:

      Hero raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) K:club: 4:spade: 6:spade:
      Hero bets $0.48, CO raises to $1.59, Hero calls $1.11

      Turn: ($3.93, 2 players) K:spade:
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.88, Hero calls $1.88

      River: ($7.69, 2 players) 3:heart:
      Hero checks, CO bets $6.23 and is all-in, fold

      CO wins $7.34


      Another standard laydown?

      Reason I've posted these hands is just to make sure i'm not being some kind of nit or missing something, thanks in advance.
  • 14 replies
    • Fanko
      Fanko
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.08.2010 Posts: 1,151
      It is extremely nitty to fold the nut flush here, I am calling and being happy about it too.
    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,308
      Originally posted by Fanko
      It is extremely nitty to fold the nut flush here, I am calling and being happy about it too.
      And what sort of range do you think he has here, after check raising the flop?
      Can't see us beating much.
    • Bebabcsinya
      Bebabcsinya
      Gold
      Joined: 01.12.2016 Posts: 71
      Yes i think it is too nitty to fold a nut flush here. He may do this line with a 78 or some worse flush JTs T9s. Only six cards beats you so if he can bluff and valubet worse hands then yours then its a call
    • CucumbaMan
      CucumbaMan
      Silver
      Joined: 13.10.2017 Posts: 128
      I think it is pretty similar to the other hand you posted (the pocket Aces). Yes, I'm sure you are worried about a full house, but as mentioned above villian can have some lower flusher or busted straight draws here.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Gold
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,998
      i do not see how you can be happy about calling the river. that said it does feel necessary
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 7,626
      I wouldn't be super happy about calling the river but I think it would still be a decent play to do so. Villain could overplay his Kx, he could have some weaker flushes also. We don't have that many combos in our range that would make a full house / quads here, so if we fold, we fold one of the best hands we have in this situation.

      I still don't think making a tight exploitative fold OTR is a terrible play.
    • KingKlaas
      KingKlaas
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2008 Posts: 1,256
      The most logical hands to see after the flopraise are 44 and 66.
      Especially with this tight opponent.
      I think the tight riverfold is possibly the best.
    • nitrol
      nitrol
      Silver
      Joined: 24.07.2010 Posts: 11,796
      Villain seems tight( even for this small sample) so folding is fine.
    • lfcmichael
      lfcmichael
      Silver
      Joined: 30.10.2016 Posts: 144
      Given that villain doesn’t have As, Ks or Qs, then his flush possibilities are significantly fewer. Considering that alongside the flop raise, I’m inclined towards seeing this as a smart lay down.
    • Fanko
      Fanko
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.08.2010 Posts: 1,151
      If you fold the nut flush here, you are in for a world of trouble. Just saying.
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,784
      See this one is much closer
      he can have all 44 66
      only valuebet you beat is TsJs and I still wouldn't expect a reg looking guy with stats skewed to the nitty side to every play that this way (he's very unlikely to be a preflop stat donk even based on this small sample)
      And 0 bluffs still make sense when you hold the As and he called on CO

      The reason why guys want you to call is again you have just KK 44 66 that you call, a hand like As5s As2s etc. is abetter call because of the very slim possibility oh him having QsJs, but still you don't have that many better hands

      But at NL10 I actually don't mind this laydown, this time he has 33% more value combos, and you don't really beat any other ones


      Fun fact: Leading turn small is actually all right here
      As your range is pretty much only made hands at this point
    • Fanko
      Fanko
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.08.2010 Posts: 1,151
      He also has all the AK combos and might play them that way. Just saying.
    • GridironAssassin
      GridironAssassin
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.12.2014 Posts: 24
      I can see KJs, KQs, all AK combos playing like this along with his nutted hands. Not sure nitty CO is calling UTG here with 66 or 44 (worried about squeeze, 3 left to act, tight UTG range, etc). I would call those hands, but I am not ever playing 19/14 or whatever he is.

      Could go either way with this one, but I am leaning towards a call here.
    • LacsapR
      LacsapR
      Silver
      Joined: 14.07.2011 Posts: 102
      Interesting posts here - would be easy call/push for me but good to read and think further