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AJo deep

    • sebralane
      sebralane
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.09.2009 Posts: 181
      PokerStars - 2000/4000 Ante 315 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 44.23 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 32)
      SB: 16.86 BB (VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
      BB: 53.96 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 36.36, Hands: 32)
      UTG: 71.27 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
      Hero (UTG+1): 40.36 BB
      MP: 23.58 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 32)
      MP+1: 8.71 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
      MP+2: 56.78 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      CO: 5.12 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 84)

      9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.21 BB) Hero has J:spade: A:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.2 BB, fold, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB, fold

      Flop: (17.41 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 8:club: J:club:
      BB bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 33.28 BB and is all-in, BB calls 21.28 BB

      Turn: (83.97 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:

      River: (83.97 BB, 2 players) 7:club:

      Villian has been 3betting punch from blinds.
      I think right was to 4bet fold this hand just because he 3bets light.
      Flop shove is completly unnessesary if I look at this now.
      What are other opinions on this hand?
  • 5 replies
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 37,800
      40bb isn’t that deep I think, but also this isn’t a great spot to call for almost 18% of your stack pre-flop. Off course his 3bet% is extreme on a low sample, but normal I would just give up and if you have seen him making some crazy 3bets with weak holdings you can also 4bet shove with a hand like AJo I think with the fold equity you will have.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • NegPL
      NegPL
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.02.2007 Posts: 192
      I'd fold pre. BBs 3b range vs EP open is usually crushing AJo. Why would he 3bet getting such a good price unless he has a strong hand? No need to risk a good stack on a marginal situation.
    • RentzEst
      RentzEst
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.09.2015 Posts: 184
      I would have folded it pre-flop.
      Flop: I would definitely fold her
    • Okkernootje
      Okkernootje
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.09.2013 Posts: 519
      Open is fine ofc, now fold to his 3 bet.

      - We could consider to call his 3bet since we are IP and we are somewhat deep, but only if we close action: which we don't because BTN is still left to act. We would hate playing a 3bet pot multiway with us not having position.

      Another reason to fold here is that AJo doesn't do great against his 3bet range. Though we block an A, the A we are looking for otf could be troublesome to extract value from his pp, and could also be troublesome if villain has AQ/AK, which are also 100% in his range here.
    • honigmund38
      honigmund38
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 15.03.2009 Posts: 19
      pre is a pretty gross spot but as others pointed out folding to the 3b seems best. you are pretty much at the bottom of your ep opening range with a hand that plays somewhat terribly postflop because of rio against a reasonably strong bb vs utg 3betting range. i think you could make a case for defending more suited combos but AJo is just an easy fold.

      you arent deep enough for a 4b/f in this spot. also game theoretically you could def make a case for not having a 4b range at all in this spot given how strong the bb 3b is going to be generally. that way you allow yourself the opportunity to flat a little wider ip.