OlivierLu vs mid-stakes Fixed-Limit

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    • Waiboy
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      Hey Olivier - welcome to the English community blogs!

      If this start to your blog is any indication I may need to learn to read French and go have a look at your French blog. :D

      Congratulations on hitting the big $5k and being made a coach - nice work! :)

      With your trials at $2/$4, what do you attribute the swings to?

      Were you overconfident and misplaying - missing key leaks in your game? Was it a substantial amount of negative variance? Tilt?

      Obviously all the above are likely to play some part, just interested (in light of my current trials - on a much smaller scale, obviously!) which factors you considered to play the biggest part in the swings.

      Also I'd be interested in knowing what you think changed in your game after your diversion to NL that has allowed you to hit such a nice run to the $5k BR?

      I'll definitely be making the pilgrimage here every couple of weeks to see how the trawl to $5/$T is going.

      Good luck fella!! :D :D :D
    • OlivierLu
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      When I arrived at $2/4, I was a 6 months old poker player that just didn't know what variance was :D Also, at this limit, the amounts you loose become more and more significant (like $200 lost in just 1 hour, $600 in one session !). My BRM was a 500BB one. I think I was in a scared money tilt, playing bot-style poker. Also, the almost $1K downswing around the 110Kth hand is a pure tilt. The day after, I cash out and decided to try NL.

      After that, I read poker mindset as well as other technical books on FL. The NL switch was a good move. I learned me what is playability, position, implied odds, but also what is the cost of 1 single decision :D . I've also read some highrollers FL blogs. I noticed they all play a non TAG style, but sLAG with a lot of calldown. During the summer 2008, I think I gave my thought on every single hand posted on the french analysis forum, forcing myself to response to hands I was unsure how to play ! (that's why i'm an analyst know -not a coach-)

      When I came back to $2/4, my experience was just bigger than it was. I was an 1 year poker player (lol !). I used a more conservative BRM (I started to open $2/4 table with 500BB and mix it with $1/2 play. When I reach 700BB, I fully moved up). I think "poker mindset", bigger BRM, a play a little bit looser post and preflop made it. Also, I slightly understand what "playing opponent not your card" really means !
    • Waiboy
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      Originally posted by OlivierLu
      During the summer 2008, I think I gave my thought on every single hand posted on the french analysis forum, forcing myself to response to hands I was unsure how to play ! (that's why i'm an analyst know -not a coach-)
      Hmm... I've made a personal goal to start to comment more on hands. I hate it sometimes because I know I'm guessing where there are gaps in my reasoning, but I suspect I need to commit more to it.

      And I'm sorry, I'm an idiot, congratulations on being made an analyst!

      Thanks for the honest reply. There is definitely some value in this for me (and I suspect others as well). :D
    • CoreySteel
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      Great. Nice blog, nice read. Seen you on sample hands forum.
      Like Waiboy I'd like to start commenting hands too, but I just don't want to get ashamed while doing it :D
      But I guess I'll never learn if I don't do it :)

      Good luck!
    • OlivierLu
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      Hey, "poker mindset" will tell you to put all emotional or personal feeling out of poker. And there is no shame to give your oppinion whaterver how skilled you are !
    • Waiboy
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      Originally posted by OlivierLu
      Hey, "poker mindset" will tell you to put all emotional or personal feeling out of poker. And there is no shame to give your oppinion whaterver how skilled you are !
      For me, I'm an egg so it's not really a shame thing, more I don't want to put other players, possibly easily influenced by someone seemingly "experienced', on the wrong track. I've gotten over this though and the comments will start (slowly) coming! :D
    • opal99
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      I checked you french blog twice before, but wasn't patient enough with google translator...

      I moved back to 3/6 few days ago because of withdrawing significant part of my BR, so I'm afraid of playing at the same table as you're now... Share your Stars' nick please ;)

      :spade: Good luck at the tables! :spade:
    • Waiboy
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      Originally posted by opal99
      I checked you french blog twice before, but wasn't patient enough with google translator...

      I moved back to 3/6 few days ago because of withdrawing significant part of my BR, so I'm afraid of playing at the same table as you're now... Share your Stars' nick please ;)

      :spade: Good luck at the tables! :spade:
      Alternatively, let us all know when and where you'll both be playing and we'll all be there wtatching!
    • OlivierLu
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      Originally posted by opal99
      I checked you french blog twice before, but wasn't patient enough with google translator...

      I moved back to 3/6 few days ago because of withdrawing significant part of my BR, so I'm afraid of playing at the same table as you're now... Share your Stars' nick please ;)

      :spade: Good luck at the tables! :spade:
      My pseudo is OlivierLu :rolleyes: (http://www.pokertableratings.com/overview/olivierlu). I'm also the not well know Kopeck81 on Party, and OlivLu on FTP (I'll be back there one day)

      Yesterday was the lol BoD Day challenge. I've finished ITM around the 800th. Good job :O I saw 2 others "minraise" teammember still alive after the bubble. Yeah FL rules !!
    • OlivierLu
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      Update, 03/05/2009




      Yeah !!! this is a nice update for me !!!!

      Everything worked fine. Since I went over the $5K, I just never had a negative session at $3/6. It's a clear upswing, but it made me happy. My lifetime $3/6 is now positive.

      But a more interesting point is that I've tried HU-$2/4 (yeah that's the fashion right now). Up to now, I just try to beat the rake. That's hard... But for now, I'm still alive, and I really appreciate to play HU !
      This HU shot is part of my long goal for poker. I really want to be a winning player at midstakes limits to be more resistent to tilt and to be a better hand reading.

      There are so many HU hands I play. All of them seems more crazy than the other ones, but here is my best bad beat :
      Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 57761
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 :club: 8 :club:
      Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls

      Flop: (6 SB) 3 :spade: 6 :club: 5 :club: (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

      Turn: (7 BB) K :club: (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

      River: (15 BB) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero calls

      Final Pot: 17 BB
      BB shows K :diamond: K :spade: (a full house, Kings full of Fives)
      Hero mucks 4 :club: 8 :club:
      BB wins 16.875 BB

      but of course, I won few big pots :
      Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 57762
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 3 :spade: K :spade:
      BTN/SB raises, Hero calls

      Flop: (4 SB) 3 :diamond: 3 :club: 7 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN/SB bets, Hero calls

      Turn: (3 BB) 4 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN/SB bets, Hero raises, BTN/SB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BTN/SB calls

      River: (11 BB) 6 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BTN/SB raises, Hero calls

      Final Pot: 15 BB
      Hero shows 3 :spade: K :spade: (three of a kind, Threes)
      BTN/SB shows T :diamond: T :club: (two pair, Tens and Threes)
      Hero wins 14.875 BB

      My favorite opponent was a guy that follow one simple strategy. He keeped his mouse over the raise button, and click to hit whatever the action I gave of his cards :D He was stacked with $100, 8 hands latter (yes, 8 hands), he was busto and left :rolleyes: That's a pity. I would have love to play against him for a longer time.

      see u next time !
    • BDL
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      Hey, really great posts, you're an inspiring player. I'll get over to the french forums and read your blog there. Do you have skype? Sometimes some of us FL players do sweat sessions together and you're more than welcome to join.
    • Waiboy
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      8 hands sounds like a challenge fellas! Anyone do any better at HU?!

      Nice one Olivier... keep the hammer down!!!
    • OlivierLu
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    • CoreySteel
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      Booo... You lost one hand against him. How could you?! :)
    • bucr77
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      Originally posted by OlivierLu
      Update, 03/05/2009





      see u next time !
      Hi, one question, how do u do to separate the HU, 6max, and FR stats from each other in HM???
    • OlivierLu
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      Originally posted by bucr77
      Hi, one question, how do u do to separate the HU, 6max, and FR stats from each other in HM???
      In the reports tab, choose the option named "winning summuray" (the very last one) instead of "by stakes"
    • soulandbone
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      Nice Blog Olivier!!

      I've been reading your other blog it's interesting too!!

      Well i'm coming just like you, from another community (the spanish one) i just want to improve my FR FL knowledge , before starting to learn NL strategies.

      I've been reading that FL SH is full of fishes in the upper limits, the problem is that in SH for what i've been reading multitabling more than 5 tables is not really an option, so do you think that despite that is really SH better than FR if your goal is to generate good money?


      in which platform have you faced less skilled opponents?

      PokerStars? Party? FTP?


      Thanks in Advance Olivier.

      Best of Lucks in your poker career, i'll be following your french blog too.I need to practice my french it's been a while since i last spoke/wrote it.


      Bye bye !!!
    • OlivierLu
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      Update, 10/03/2009




      Question: What comes after an upswing?
      Answer: downswing...

      First of all, my most beautiful bad beat just for pleasure:
      Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with K :heart: T :spade:
      UTG calls, 1 fold, BTN raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls

      Flop: (8 SB) 5 :heart: 5 :club: K :club: (4 players)
      Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, BTN calls

      Turn: (5.5 BB) 2 :heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets, BB calls, BTN folds

      River: (7.5 BB) 2 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls

      Final Pot: 11.5 BB
      Hero mucks K :heart: T :spade:
      BB shows 7 :spade: 2 :club: (a full house, Deuces full of Fives)
      BB wins 11 BB


      This hand was really limit on every street except on the river. For the preflop action, I was in a semi-tilt mode (see below):
      Poker Stars $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.333 SB) Hero is BTN with 2 :club: A :club:
      2 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB caps!, CO calls, Hero calls

      Flop: (12.333 SB) 4 :spade: 2 :spade: 8 :club: (3 players)
      BB checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB calls

      Turn: (7.667 BB) 5 :club: (3 players)
      BB checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB calls

      River: (10.667 BB) 9 :club: (3 players)
      BB checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB folds, CO 3-bets, Hero caps!, CO calls

      Final Pot: 18.667 BB
      Hero shows 2 :club: A :club: (a flush, Ace high)
      CO mucks 9 :heart: 9 :diamond:
      Hero wins 18.167 BB


      And to finish with the hands, some crazy HU hands
      Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 7 :club: 5 :spade:
      BTN/SB raises, Hero calls

      Flop: (4 SB) T :club: 8 :heart: J :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN/SB bets, Hero calls

      Turn: (3 BB) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN/SB bets, Hero raises, BTN/SB calls

      River: (7 BB) K :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BTN/SB folds

      Final Pot: 7 BB
      Hero mucks 7 :club: 5 :spade:
      Hero wins 6.875 BB


      Poker Stars $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.333 SB) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 :diamond: 7 :diamond:
      Hero raises, BB calls

      Flop: (4 SB) 6 :diamond: J :spade: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps!, Hero calls

      Turn: (6 BB) 6 :club: (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero calls

      River: (8 BB) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

      Final Pot: 16 BB
      Hero shows 5 :diamond: 7 :diamond: (a straight flush, Five to Nine :D )
      BB mucks 8 :club: 6 :heart:
      Hero wins 15.917 BB

      I really thought I would loose this one. The riverbet is still not clear for me:
      Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 2 :heart: 2 :club:
      BTN/SB calls, Hero raises, BTN/SB calls

      Flop: (4 SB) 6 :heart: 2 :diamond: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BTN/SB raises, Hero calls

      Turn: (4 BB) A :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN/SB bets, Hero raises, BTN/SB calls

      River: (8 BB) Q :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BTN/SB calls

      Final Pot: 10 BB
      BTN/SB mucks 6 :spade: 8 :spade:
      Hero shows 2 :heart: 2 :club: (three of a kind, Deuces)
      Hero wins 9.875 BB


      Ok, I will stop here with hands. I went through many poker mood since the last update. First, I've experienced the most beautiful upswing of my young poker life. I won every TPTK, I hit every draw. Hands after hands, I progressively enter in a euphoric tilt. My mind was telling me to play longuer, and more hands. I felt invicible. Of course, all of this arrived progressively, as always in FL.
      So, I'm back from 2 weeks with my BR. Nothing awful, but I broke the $6K level, and I saw myself shooting $5/T before the end of the month. So today, I'm a bit painful with "just" $5K.

      I will take one poker-rest-day. I won't play, but I will download some FL-HU videos. I really want to give a serious shot with it, but I'm still searching for the right way to play it.
    • OlivierLu
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      Guess what:

      Party Poker $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 64418
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
      $2/$4 USD Texas Hold'em - Thursday, March 12, 17:07:20 EDT 2009 Table Jackpot #1305135 (Real Money)

      Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is UTG with K :spade: T :club:
      Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, SB caps!, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls

      Flop: (16 SB) T :heart: 8 :diamond: T :diamond: (4 players)
      SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero caps!, CO calls, BB calls

      Turn: (14.5 BB) 8 :spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls all in

      River: (20.25 BB) T :spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
      BB checks, CO checks

      Final Pot: 20.25 BB
      CO shows 8 :heart: 8 :club: (four of a kind, Eights)
      BB shows J :spade: 7 :heart: (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
      Hero shows K :spade: T :club: (four of a kind, Tens)
      CO wins 0.5 BB
      Hero wins 19.125 BB

      This is how you can win more than $23,000 in one hand !!!!