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[NL5] A4s, 4bet spot, SBvsBB cbet Flop?

    • MatoStar
      MatoStar
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.07.2017 Posts: 186
      Hello, my another weird hand. Should I cbet F? Because I think, I have not enough fold equity, because his range is mainly from Qx hands like AQs,AQo,KQs, maybe KQo and QQ,JJ,TT,AJs, AKo (sometimes). And when I would have AA or KK, I would check as well, because I do not want to get a raise and I do not have a 3 streets of value on this board. I usually cbet in this sitaution around 30%, but I am not sure if I can do it here either. What do you think about it?
      Btw is A4s fine to 4bet like a bluff SBvsBB? I usually 4bet in this spot A2o-A5o, because of blocker effect and it is bad to 3bet call OOP.


  • 8 replies
    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,480
      I wouldn't be 4betting unless you know your opponent is a reg. 4bet bluffing blind at NL5 isn't a good play.
      You haven't shown any info on the opponent so I x/f is fine. You have no backdoor equity going for you and aren't getting any pairs to fold without multiple barrels, which isn't something you wana be doing vs unknowns.
    • MatoStar
      MatoStar
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.07.2017 Posts: 186
      BB is 18/16 (45) and looked like a reg, so I think he can be a reg
    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,480
      I think there are a lot better things to spend your time thinking about then a hand like this.
      45 hands is not enough to get any sort of read from.
      4bet folding a hand like this isn't bad and may even be profitable but with no info I prefer to just fold.
      And don't worry about check-folding here, the profit comes from the pre-flop play.
    • MatoStar
      MatoStar
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.07.2017 Posts: 186
      Okay, thanks, I will reduce my 4bet bluffing range on microstakes. I wanted to try, because I saw it in some videos and I wanted to have experience with 4bet spots. But definitely I am going to focus on common spots.
    • pdfbq
      pdfbq
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 179
      I would fold to his 3 bet in the first place but...

      At 2NL (for what its worth) my experience is when you 4 bet and villain does not put you 'all in' right a way c betting generates tons of folds.

      The way I look at it is if you do a normal c-bet with air in say 5BB in a 6.5BB pot, that one is relatively more(!) expensive than c-betting 20BB in a 40BB pot.

      You freak AK out for sure here and maybe even AA KK sometimes will find the fold button.
      A tough cookie might call with JJ TT but they will be afraid also for AA KK.

      Also it's easy playing later. You just give up when not folded
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      QQX boards always favor the call3b/call4b player, he has AQ/KQ/QJs/QTs and midpairs. Even with AA/KK you should be checking, you need to play your entire range way more passively.
    • pdfbq
      pdfbq
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 179
      @mbml If you check here do you not just give up?
      I mean AA/KK has showdown value but with A2 you're always behind.
      You think you rarely get a fold on a c-bet here?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      I give up even with AK, you are basically dead vs typical call4bet ranges of QX and midpairs