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[NL10] threeway stack off flop

    • jimecek
      jimecek
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.09.2011 Posts: 102
      PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
      Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

      UTG: $23.50 (235 bb)
      MP: $18.66 (187 bb)
      CO: $16.24 (162 bb)
      BU (Hero): $13.69 (137 bb)
      SB: $10.35 (104 bb)
      BB: $11.90 (119 bb)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T Q
      UTG raises to $0.20, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.80) K 6 A (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.60, SB raises to $10.15 (all-in), BB folds, UTG raises to $23.30 (all-in), Hero calls $11.89 (all-in)

      Turn: ($37.93) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      River: ($37.93) Q (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Total pot: $37.93 (Rake: $1.50)

      Showdown:
      UTG shows K 3 (two pair, Kings and Threes)
      (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 28%, Turn: 21%, River: 0%)

      SB shows A K (two pair, Aces and Kings)
      (Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 71%, River: 100%)

      BU (Hero) shows T Q (a pair of Queens)
      (Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

      UTG wins $6.59
      SB wins $29.84


      Can i call this on flop ?
  • 5 replies
    • RubbyDubby
      RubbyDubby
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.02.2018 Posts: 193
      If there is no higher flush out there you probably have a chance of ~33% to win here so that might be neutral EV.
      But you can play with that in pokerstove (free) or some equal small app.

      I personally do not like neutral EV, but I guess it makes you harder to play against when you call these.

      On a side note. Why not just call the flop bet?
      It's a 3way pot with an under the gun opener. SB seems week and might just call or fold. Now you risking a shove.

      But again, my 2NL wisdom.
    • MatoStar
      MatoStar
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.07.2017 Posts: 186
      I would just call the flop. I don't see any reason to raise, especially in multiway spot, we haven't nuts, but only Fd+Gs. We can still fold on some bad turns and safe our money. And raise if came heart or J. On this shoves I don't know how odds we get, but I think it's a fold because of rake.
    • CucumbaMan
      CucumbaMan
      Silver
      Joined: 13.10.2017 Posts: 243
      I think I would fold here once the sb shoves. It's a 3-way pot, and someone just 4-bet an UTG raise and a 3-bet. Although we have a lot of outs, I'm not sure I wanna go into this situation.
    • lfcmichael
      lfcmichael
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.10.2016 Posts: 166
      Originally posted by CucumbaMan
      I think I would fold here once the sb shoves. It's a 3-way pot, and someone just 4-bet an UTG raise and a 3-bet. Although we have a lot of outs, I'm not sure I wanna go into this situation.
      I agree. After two players shove over the top of you, I think it’s time to fold with this hand.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Rule Number 1: Don't raise when you can't rep shit

      Only strong hand you have is 66/A6s. You should probably slowplay all of your strong hands on this texture. You virtually never have AK/AA/KK here. It's so easy to put you on a combodraw when you raise here.