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[NL5] SH AJs oop

    • Sshnur
      Joined: 23.05.2011 Posts: 39
      UTG: I had only 3 hands and he was playing 100/67. According to statistics and sizing of the bet I assume that it is fishy player.
      MP: 50/30 after 10 hands.

      Preflop: I squeeze, because I think my range is stronger and I don't want to play oop 3way. Now I would raise bigger, around 10bbs. After the fold of UTG, MP call was a surprise for me, which led to assumpteion that it can be a fishy player as well. I think his range can be any pairs and broadway suited hands.

      Flop: Here is the question. Should I cbet or just be in chk/fold as I haven't hit the flop? I bet because i wanted to get him fold the small pairs.

      Turn: The clover helped his range, so I was in chk/fold at this point.

      River: Now I would be only on chk/fold

      Please share any thoughts regarding this play. Thx.

      $0.02/$0.05Zoom No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

      UTG TheMaze B.M ($6.72) 134bb
      UTG+1 regul1 ($13.76) 275bb
      CO JonasAPN ($6.18) 124bb
      BTN iceman99885 ($5.09) 102bb
      SB Hero ($6.33) 127bb
      BB Alexandur90 ($10.49) 210bb

      Pre-Flop: (0.07, 6 players) Hero is SB :Jh: :Ah:
      TheMaze B.M raises to $0.10, regul1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, TheMaze B.M folds, regul1 calls $0.30
      Flop: :5c: :8c: :Ks: ($0.95, 2 players)

      Hero bets $0.61, regul1 calls $0.61

      Turn: :9c: ($2.17, 2)
      Hero checks, regul1 checks

      River: :6s: ($2.17, 2)

      Hero bets $0.85, regul1 calls $0.85

      Final Pot: $3.87
      Hero shows high card Ace
      :Jh: :Ah:
      regul1 shows a pair of Kings
      :Qh: :Kh:

      regul1 wins $3.71 (net +$1.85)

      Hero lost $1.86
      TheMaze B.M lost $0.10
  • 7 replies
    • VorpalF2F
      Super Moderator
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      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 10,846
      The turn is an ideal bluff card, but how much to bet vs an unknown?
      If you do get called, though you must follow up with a river bet.

      I'm curious to hear what others say...
    • SDK1987
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 38,140
      I have moved your hand to the hand discussion forum. Then you get more response.
      If you want to represent something you need to bluff the turn as well. Now it’s tough to let him fold to many better hands on the river after the check on the turn.

    • MatoStar
      Joined: 22.07.2017 Posts: 186
      Cbet flop is fine. After he called 2/3 bet, he always have something like Kx, FD, JJ,TT,99,98s,87s that can be his range ott and on our bluff bet he will fold 87s and JJ,TT without club, so I don't think we have enough fold equity and we haven't more outs, because we will dominated by his flashes and two pairs after we hit Ace. So I would give up on the turn and check otr as well, because line bet check bet seems like a bluff and many fishes do it as well, so it's easy to exploit.
    • RubbyDubby
      Joined: 15.02.2018 Posts: 193
      C-bet flop 100% agree.

      I would check turn.
      I do not agree with VorpalF2F that it is a good bluff card because it is so not our range (an A or Q might be a bluff card here).

      Without seeing the spoiler i would never bet the river (way too much villains range).

      Seen spoiler (wow!)
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Preflop: I like the squeeze to isolate the weaker player

      Flop: 1/3-1/2 pot will suffice, don't waste money bluffing

      River: he will have a ton of 2pairs, straights and top pairs. If you want to blow a fish off top pair, don't EVER use a 40% pot sizing, he will just call because POT ODDS.

      In short, river was butchered pretty badly, it's a card which helps his range way more than it helps yours, and he may not necessarily fold top pair.
    • Sshnur
      Joined: 23.05.2011 Posts: 39
      Thank you very much for answers. Today I had a similar situation, so these thoughts helped a lot.
    • CucumbaMan
      Joined: 13.10.2017 Posts: 243
      I don't know about the preflop bet. Do you have to bet? I'm asking you guys: if we bet 3-bet preflop, do we always have to 3-bet? I mean he has a lot of Ks in his range.