# [NL2-NL10] NL25 FR - Q,3s - freeplay - flush draw + overcard?

• Black
Joined: 02.11.2008
Known players:
Position:
Stack
SB:
\$4.87
Hero:
\$4.97

0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 , Q
7 folds, SB calls \$0.15, Hero checks.

Flop: (\$0.50) 4 , 5 , J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (\$0.50) 8 (2 players)
SB bets \$0.36, Hero calls \$0.36.

River: (\$1.22) Q (2 players)
SB bets \$0.25, Hero calls \$0.25.

Final Pot: \$1.72

Calculation (maybe incorrect...)

Pot odds of 0.86 : 0.36 = 2.4:1
Outs are, at best, 9+3 (flush and 3Qs) = 12 outs. So, Odds are: (unhelpful cards (52-2-4) - 12 = 34 : 12 (helpful cards), so 2.83:1.

So, I can't call unless I have some implied odds as well?

Thanks
• 3 replies
• Bronze
Joined: 16.11.2007
When SB opencompletes and checks to you on the flop he shows a lot of weakness and you can take the stab on the pot and most of the time you will win directly. So, bet potsize on the flop.

As played, I think you can call turn and re-evaluate river. However, I think you can't really count on Q as clean outs, so when you hit Q on the river I like to just call.
• Bronze
Joined: 07.05.2008
Hello Tim64,

As burek pointed out, bet 2/3-potsized on the Flop to take the pot right there.
I discount your Q for possible flushes leaving you with 11 outs.

11 outs = 3,3:1 => :1 = \$0.36

Pot must be \$0.36x3.3 = \$1.18
Pot was \$0.5+\$0.36 so
\$1.18 - \$0.86 = [To be extracted Value on next street]
\$0.32 = [To be extraced Value on next street]

Then I see its an easy call
Best regards,
Gerv
• Black
Joined: 02.11.2008
Thanks to both of you!

Forgot to discount FD Q when doing the calc, but otherwise didn't do too badly for once.

Cheers,
Tim