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[NL2-NL10] KK on bad flop NL10

    • Rauno9
      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 57
      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at

      UTG Hero ($10.94)
      UTG+1 Taisuke ($2.62)
      MP1 dwb4164 ($1.18)
      MP2 Sharp Joe ($11.12)
      MP3 Pokermage2008 ($19.73)
      CO Achterhoek ($11.22)
      BTN tgebics ($2.20)
      SB himajinizm ($3.88)
      BB benny_m1987 ($5.37)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG K:spade: K:heart:
      Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, Achterhoek calls $0.40, 1 fold, himajinizm calls $0.35, 1 fold

      Flop: A:diamond: J:diamond: J:heart: ($1.30, 3 players)
      himajinizm bets $0.25, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $1.55
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Preflop: OK
      Flop: Kinda interesting move, betting so small. Looks like weakness or just wants to get cheap his flushdraw or maybe gutshot :P . It's OK to fold here but you could also raise him and find out if he has the A here and check/fold next streets.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I woudl raise there 1$-1,3$ and if called then check behind on the turn and then decide on the river if I want to call.
      He sometimes is bluffing, sometimes leading with draw, sometimes b/f weak Ax- you raised pf and once you raise on the flop they woudl put you on AK or Jx.
    • dnalloh
      Joined: 20.02.2009 Posts: 53
      i am total newbie here, so dont at all want to question u judges, but doesnt this kind of play COMPLETELY depend on read/stats of fi? i mean, some fishies bet every single scary flop with these rediculously small bets. i for that reason like to bet like that on a hand where i have AJ exactly becuz it looks so fishy, so against me u would want to fold your KK here (or call and hope for the K, u have odds for that too i would think) - but against a whole lot of idiots out there a donkey bet is being made by a donkey

      again, take this with a huge grain of salt...

      ps. i do realize there is a player behind to act also. i would very likely just smooth call here and see what happens on the turn - both cards and action.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Ye, some players who don't know how to bet, do with Ax also such bets. But still I would rather prefer to raise there and have some fold equity than just call.