3bet shove or not

    • Arnalsan
      Arnalsan
      Silver
      Joined: 15.03.2010 Posts: 458
      SB player open raise a few spots that I re-raise and he folded. Now with AQ I decided to shove. It was a good decision in your opinion?

      Poker Stars, $0.44 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 3,421 (17.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): 3,005 (15 bb)
      CO: 6,314 (31.6 bb)
      BTN: 760 (3.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :Qd: :Ah:
      2 folds, SB raises to 420, Hero raises to 2,980 and is all-in, SB calls 2,560

      Flop: (6,060) :8h: :Jd: :Jh: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (6,060) :7c: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (6,060) :5h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      6,060 pot
      Final Board: :8h: :Jd: :Jh: :7c: :5h:
      SB showed :As: :Kc: and won 6,060 (3,055 net)
      Hero showed :Qd: :Ah: and lost (-3,005 net)


      Sng Wizard advised to fold co's equity push 21,59% & equity fold 25,78%.
  • 4 replies
    • Mayb3n0T
      Mayb3n0T
      Silver
      Joined: 03.01.2017 Posts: 349
      Is this sng 9 players? If it's the case i understand because there are one player very short, so you are on the bubble and that's why you have this tight range. But if you see that sb is agressive and raise alot on that position, i think you could 3bet shove, you have a good hand vs sb, you have some fold equity and when you shove he has to call more tight.

      Cumps ;)
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 37,030
      Interesting spot and I guess this is a bubble spot too. In this case it’s good to know if the SB is familiar with ICM, because he should fold almost his entire range against you if you shove. That’s in a 50c SNG almost never the case, because he should even fold a hand like TT and AK if you shove with a 3,8bb stack still in the game. That’s why I would always shove if I was the SB player, because then you can only call with TT+ or even tighter depending how wide the SB would shove.

      Based on the info he folded already a decent amount of the time shoving seems alright, but it could end that the short stack will be the real winner of the hand if he would call to wide.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • LacsapR
      LacsapR
      Silver
      Joined: 14.07.2011 Posts: 156
      I like your play here even at the bubble, having these reads I'd also have shoved here.
    • Arnalsan
      Arnalsan
      Silver
      Joined: 15.03.2010 Posts: 458
      Folks,
      Yes, it was a bubble spot!
      I really thought that he'll call just with premium hands as QQ, KK, AA and AK in a entire range of stealing.
      Even do mathematically was a bad move according sng wizard.