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[NL2] (FR) A4o - going broke in unraised pot vs unknown

    • pguest
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,899

      Although I'm still in my first ~17k hands of this variant and trying to learn it, I'm pretty sure I've been playing (not running) horribly.
      So, any pointers in the right direction (articles, videos, psychotherapists, ...) would be appreciated.

      Without further due:

      $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players

      BTN: 106 BB (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 7.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
      SB: 80.5 BB (VPIP: 36.55, PFR: 13.19, 3Bet Preflop: 0.53, Hands: 557)
      Hero (BB): 125 BB
      UTG: 29.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      UTG+1: 115 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 38)
      MP: 52.5 BB (VPIP: 35.14, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 37)
      CO: 81.5 BB (VPIP: 26.85, PFR: 17.37, 3Bet Preflop: 5.63, Hands: 476)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: 4:diamond:

      UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

      Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 3:club: 4:club: 2:heart:
      My thoughts in this flop:

      I have "top" pair with top kicker + str8 draw (idiot's end) + bd fd to the nuts vs unknown, in a kind-of wet board.
      So, I'm ahead any pair or tp here, I have some outs against any pairs and sets and a redraw against a better str8 draw (A6, 55 and 66).
      On top of that, I hate to play almost any hand OOP and I'm a bit tilted.

      I don't usually play this type of hand or even shove here, but I must admit that the vilan being short stacked and my laziness in (re)think my hand in the later betting rounds, for this particular spot, had convinced me.

      SB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 124 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 24.5 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (61 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:

      River: (61 BB, 2 players) 5:club:

      Hero shows A:club: 4:diamond: (Straight, Five High)
      (Pre 57%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
      UTG shows 6:club: 5:diamond: (Straight, Six High)
      (Pre 43%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
      UTG wins 57.5 BB

  • 2 replies
    • la55i
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,227
      Betting the flop is ok, but when a passive limper raises you I would be scared. It is super rarely a bluff. It might not be a very strong hand but he can limp pretty much anything pre so he has some overpairs, sets, 2pair, straights and so on.

      I would just call his minraise and then re-evaluate OTT. If you hit a 5,4,A or a club you can probably continue. But I think shoving is a bit of an overplay with this hand.
    • CucumbaMan
      Joined: 13.10.2017 Posts: 254
      Yeah, as la55i mentioned betting is okay, but would definitely just call on the flop and evaluate on later streets.