[NL2-NL10] When to fold broadway draw?

    • STR82ACE
      STR82ACE
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.10.2008 Posts: 389
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      Position
      SB
      BB

      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with A:club: , Q:diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.08, 6 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.24) 7:diamond: , J:heart: , K:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, SB calls $0.16.

      Turn: ($0.72) 5:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $0.72, Hero folds, SB calls $0.72.

      River: ($2.16) T:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $0.99 (All-In), SB calls $0.99.

      Final Pot: $4.14

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows a pair of kings (Kh Qc)
      BB shows two pairs, kings and fives (Ks 5s)

      BB wins with two pairs, kings and fives (Ks 5s)

      If I had called the turn, I would have hit broadway on the river, but it was calling to 4 outs and I didn't like the chances of that happening. Still, if I had called the turn, I would have been able to stack both opponents I think.

      Would have the implied odds on hitting my four outer really making calling the turn the right decision?
  • 2 replies
    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.10.2008 Posts: 488
      I think you should just fold on the flop.

      Chasing gutshot draws is hardly ever profitable unless the bets are very small or there are massive implied odds.

      You can hardly ever rely on massive implied odds because on the river you can only justify betting around 2/3 potsize for value. BB also has not much of a stack left. I don't know what SB's stack was.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Smileyphil
      I think you should just fold on the flop.

      Chasing gutshot draws is hardly ever profitable unless the bets are very small or there are massive implied odds.

      You can hardly ever rely on massive implied odds because on the river you can only justify betting around 2/3 potsize for value. BB also has not much of a stack left. I don't know what SB's stack was.
      +1