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[NL5] 99 straight OOP as pre flop aggressor

    • DannyHorsley
      Joined: 03.12.2014 Posts: 188
      888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 86 BB (VPIP: 14.20, PFR: 6.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 336)
      MP+1: 86.6 BB (VPIP: 34.15, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 83)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.47, PFR: 11.40, 3Bet Preflop: 3.50, Hands: 702)
      BTN: 92.6 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
      SB: 107 BB (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 30.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 219)
      BB: 147.4 BB (VPIP: 16.47, PFR: 9.41, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 85)
      UTG: 188.2 BB (VPIP: 22.40, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 1,318)
      Hero (UTG+1): 100 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:spade: 9:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

      Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) J:club: 5:diamond: 8:club:
      SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, fold

      Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
      Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB

      River: (42 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 31.4 BB, Hero calls 31.4 BB

      So in this hand I make a standard raise pre flop. I feel that there isn't anything wrong with this raise here.
      The flop comes and there is one overpair. I decide to take a punt with just under half the pot. I get one call
      The turn brings me a double belly buster. I now decide to treat this as a drawing hand as a 9 would likely be bad for me, making four to a straight.
      The river gives me the straight, however it completes the flush draw. I feel that my opponent can definitely have a completed flush here given how he's played the hand so far. He could also have something like AJ, KJ, QJ or even J10. I therefore decide to check the river intended to call a bet.

      What are your guys' thoughts on this play? Should I have bet more OTF and OTT to protect against draws? Should I have just given up OTF given that I only had second pair? Should I bet more pre flop? Should I have folded or raised OTR?
  • 3 replies
    • SDK1987
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 38,920
      I have moved your hand to our hand discussion forum, because you will get more feedback there.

      The BTN player seems a little bit passive with his huge VPIP and PFR gap. That would be a reason for me to keep the pot small on the turn, because I doubt you get to many better hands to fold.

      The river seems standard and if he has you beat it’s nasty for sure.

    • DannyHorsley
      Joined: 03.12.2014 Posts: 188
      Thanks for the feedback SDK. Apologies, I thought I had put it into the hand discussion forum! My bad.

      So is using the gap between VPIP and PFR a good indication of how passive an opponent is? Im currently playing at 24/16 (not a massive gap I know, but still a gap nonetheless) and I'd consider myself as very aggressive.

      Also, why are we trying to keep the pot small against a passive opponent? I assume because if we go to showdown they are far more likely to have a strong hand and we therefore reduce our losses?
    • GridironAssassin
      Joined: 19.12.2014 Posts: 82
      Pot controlling turn. You are checking like every river here whether you bet turn or not. I see six clean outs (non club 10 or 6). The story is probably different if your set outs are clean, but it still seems kinda thin. The only feasible fold I see from him on the turn is TT so betting turn this thin usually just ends up value owning yourself.