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[NL2] (FR) QQ - slowplay?

    • pguest
      pguest
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,899
      $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players

      UTG: 35 BB (VPIP: 65.12, PFR: 2.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
      UTG+1: 108 BB (VPIP: 20.17, PFR: 11.60, 3Bet Preflop: 3.27, Hands: 600)
      MP: 96 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.99, PFR: 9.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 154)
      MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.39, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 819)
      CO: 23 BB (VPIP: 62.79, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 43)
      BTN: 279 BB (VPIP: 26.70, PFR: 18.69, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 400)
      Hero (SB): 124.5 BB
      BB: 173.5 BB (VPIP: 15.20, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 126)

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

      UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, UTG calls 6 BB, fold, fold


      Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) Q:heart: 6:diamond: 2:club:
      Thoughts:
      The safest board ever for a top set.
      Does the line check behind flop and bet turn (or call bet turn) aka slowplay make any sense?

      Hero bets 9.5 BB, fold


      Hero wins 16 BB
  • 8 replies
    • Alleen86
      Alleen86
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      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 5,334
      We can't check behind the flop because we are first to act. We can check and then fold, call or raise if he bets. Slowplaying this hand definitelly makes sense in some situations (when the opponent is aggressive, for example). UTG looks very loose/passive, so I wouldn't slowplay vs him if he was fullstacked. He is probably capable of calling three streets with worse hands, and we cant expect passive player to bet vs our check, so we are losing value with checking. Since he has just 28BB left, 2 streets will be enough to get all the money in, so it makes sense to check the flop and let him to hit something and/or be more ready to call later streets, thinking we are not that strong (i.e. we capped our range OTF).
    • pguest
      pguest
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,899
      Originally posted by Alleen86
      We can't check behind the flop because we are first to act.
      You're right. I missed the correct position, when I commented the hand.
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,535
      I'd rather just lead. He's probably calling all his pocket pairs that you might miss a street of value from if another overcard hits.
      Think we could bet flop check turn as a better play.
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,535
      Then again it is NL2,.. 3 streets 😁
    • Tonyx86
      Tonyx86
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      Would u cbet with AJ or 99 on that board structure? For sure u will. Considering the fact it is NL2, we have to play straight forward, else we're loosing value.
    • Alleen86
      Alleen86
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      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 5,334
      I think you are all missing UTG's stack size. If we bet 2 streets a bit over 1/2, he will be all in. So with the absolute nuts on this bone dry board, I think it's better to check, let him improve OTT or let him think that we are weak so he can call us lighter (maybe bluff/value raise from time to time).
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,535
      Originally posted by Alleen86
      I think you are all missing UTG's stack size.
      I'll be quiet now:f_cool:
    • Alleen86
      Alleen86
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      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 5,334
      Originally posted by DecMate
      Originally posted by Alleen86
      I think you are all missing UTG's stack size.
      I'll be quiet now:f_cool:
      :f_biggrin: