SSS stats

    • dadude77
      dadude77
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      Joined: 26.10.2008 Posts: 1,516
      I'm playing NL20 SSS on Ipoker, and had some questions about my stats. Overall I'm winning about 3.7BB's over 7.7k hands, but i think it could still be better and I'm sure I have alot of leaks. Could anyone tell me if they can see anything by looking at my stats?

      Vpip- 8
      pfr-7
      3bet-4
      Late Position steal 11%
      SB first in Raise 12%

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    • Betrunkener
      Betrunkener
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      You must more steal.
      Late Position 11% and 12% First in Raise in SB is not enough.
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
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      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      Im not sure basic robot chart SSS could do alot better than 3.7BB on NL20, if thats what you are playing.
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      3.7bb/100 is quite good.

      I think you can/should loosen up a little bit in stealing , but that's it.
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      Joined: 27.07.2008 Posts: 4,494
      First of all 7,7k is not much.

      Second if you are not using stats start RIGHT NOW
      Then you will know vs. who you can steal more and vs. who to defend more.
      You can steal even 35% here, because most of the players don't care about you stats and they will not adjust.

      Best regarts,
      Kukki
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      Now I saw the graph. So you have software and no excuse not to use stats :P

      Post some more stats: Flop Cbet, BB defend, AF, WTS
    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
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      Edited whole post to make clearer:

      My graph does not reflect this at all mine is much stabler and is generally rather level. Granted so far I only have just over 1k hands to analyse but it still does not seem to have the same general features.

      My stats are:
      Vpip: 7
      PFR: 6
      3bet: 4
      Open raise late: 8
      SB first in raise: 15

      Flop Cbet: 100
      Fold BB to steal: 94
      AF: 8
      WTS: 48

      Sorry to hijack post but it is essentially the same question.
    • kukkiwonBG
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      It's probably good to say what limit do you play.

      You cbet is way to much. You are miking it very easy for you opponents if you cbet all the time. 80-85% for lower limits and 73-77 for higher limits is good.

      Defend more (use stats of course). At least 85%

      AF is to much. Make smaller cbet. 1/2-2/3

      WTS is good for SSS'er

      Kukki
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      VPIP, PFR and steal must be higher of course, but depends of the limit you are playing and from you experience...
    • SlickB
      SlickB
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      Joined: 09.11.2008 Posts: 26
      he already stated the limit ... and yeah i must agree u hav to steal way more often than that
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      Originally posted by SlickB
      he already stated the limit ... and yeah i must agree u hav to steal way more often than that
      Open poster is different....
    • Smileyphil
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      Sorry playing NL25.

      With steal does it matter what hand I hold or is it more dependent on whether I think the blinds will fold?

      Could I for example to simplify things always steal with two broadway cards or a pair? (20% range)

      That way if I am flat called I have some decent outs?
    • WildBeans
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      Joined: 23.09.2008 Posts: 586
      Originally posted by Smileyphil
      Sorry playing NL25.

      With steal does it matter what hand I hold or is it more dependent on whether I think the blinds will fold?

      You definitely want to have outs if they call. So instead of using random cards, widen your range like you said. Suited Ax on the button, KJ, etc. But if you're using stats and you know that the blinds are very tight then you could add a lot more because they're folding a lot more.