[NL2-NL10] AK, nl4 #3

    • Macias09
      Macias09
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.06.2008 Posts: 1,821
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $5,64
      Hero:
      $4,94
      MP2:
      $2,97
      MP3:
      $3,95
      CO:
      $5,20

      0,02/0,04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.62 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:heart: , K:spade:
      4 folds, MP2 calls $0,04, MP3 calls $0,04, CO calls $0,04, BU folds, SB calls $0,02, Hero raises to $0,24, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,20, CO calls $0,20, SB folds.

      Flop: ($0,80) 4:diamond: , K:club: , A:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0,55, MP3 calls $0,55, CO calls $0,55.

      Turn: ($2,45) T:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1,70, MP3 raises to $3,16 (All-In), CO calls $3,16, Hero calls $1,46.

      River: ($11,93) J:heart: (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks.

      Final Pot: $11,93

      fold turn? or maybe 3bet and trap CO?
  • 5 replies
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Pfr: OK
      Flop: Bet bigger, you need protection.
      Turn: c/f against 2 imo, bet/fold against 1
    • delete461
      delete461
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      Joined: 04.07.2008 Posts: 1,036
      bet potsize on flop, many hands can draw out on you

      bet at least $2 on turn, fold to reraise
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Originally posted by delete461
      bet potsize on flop, many hands can draw out on you

      bet at least $2 on turn, fold to reraise
      If he bet potsize on flop, he can't really only bet $2 on the turn. And even if he does, isn't he pretty much committed with the turn bet (if as played, he needs to call 1,46 into like 10 dollars pot, if he bets 2 after betting potsize on flop he really needs to call only for FH outs here its +ev).

      If you bet potsize on flop:

      Turn pot = $3.2
      Hero bets $2
      MP3 raises to $2,91 (3,16-0,25 extra on flop call)
      CO calls $2,91

      pot to win = 3,2+2+2,91+2,91 = $11,02
      to call: $0,91
      Pot odds ~ (1 : 12,11) ~ 0.076 ~ 7.6% needed equity to make the call..
      If we give our opponent a random suited connector (98 f.e) and equilate it we have 9% equity.

      Therefor I think betting $2 here puts you in a very very very bad spot (you still have to call, although rake makes it like completely breakeven), and you should just make up your mind wheither to c/f, or to bet roundabout $2,5 and go broke with a clear conscience.

      I would lean towards a c/f depending on opponents, but if you think there is a chance that they don't have a flush already then by all means go broke (oop for the lose)

      Hope I'm not making a fool of myself, writing this at 4am after just coming home from a night out :D
    • delete461
      delete461
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      Joined: 04.07.2008 Posts: 1,036
      you are right, betting turn would commit him to pot

      check/fold turn may be better with 3 people seeing the flop, could probably shove it in on turn v only one opponent
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Fongie
      Originally posted by delete461
      bet potsize on flop, many hands can draw out on you

      bet at least $2 on turn, fold to reraise
      If he bet potsize on flop, he can't really only bet $2 on the turn. And even if he does, isn't he pretty much committed with the turn bet (if as played, he needs to call 1,46 into like 10 dollars pot, if he bets 2 after betting potsize on flop he really needs to call only for FH outs here its +ev).

      If you bet potsize on flop:

      Turn pot = $3.2
      Hero bets $2
      MP3 raises to $2,91 (3,16-0,25 extra on flop call)
      CO calls $2,91

      pot to win = 3,2+2+2,91+2,91 = $11,02
      to call: $0,91
      Pot odds ~ (1 : 12,11) ~ 0.076 ~ 7.6% needed equity to make the call..
      If we give our opponent a random suited connector (98 f.e) and equilate it we have 9% equity.

      Therefor I think betting $2 here puts you in a very very very bad spot (you still have to call, although rake makes it like completely breakeven), and you should just make up your mind wheither to c/f, or to bet roundabout $2,5 and go broke with a clear conscience.

      I would lean towards a c/f depending on opponents, but if you think there is a chance that they don't have a flush already then by all means go broke (oop for the lose)

      Hope I'm not making a fool of myself, writing this at 4am after just coming home from a night out :D
      Excellent analyze.
      Because pot is multiway and hero holds top two pair I think b/c turn is fine option to take @ nl 4.
      1,7$ is fine betsize, 2$ is also fine.