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[NL2] AA on 3-suited paired board

    • Bernasconi
      Bernasconi
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.08.2006 Posts: 486
      I am wondering if this is a cooler or if I played this hand completely wrong?

      Pre-flop play is pretty standard 3-bet with AA.
      He checks flop so I think this is a easy value bet on this flop.
      He raises. I think a while about it and end up giving him the following range: AA (really unlikely), KK, QQ, JJ, TT maybe even 99. In addition I give him AK/AQ. According to his stats he playes rather thight so I guess I am better than most of his hands except 99 of course.

      Turns out he had T9s which I never ever would have thought about after his pre-flop play.


      Any thoughts about my play?

      888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 40 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 90)
      UTG: 111 BB (VPIP: 12.20, PFR: 4.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
      Hero (UTG+1): 130 BB
      MP: 38 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.30, PFR: 15.60, 3Bet Preflop: 6.62, Hands: 461)
      MP+2: 182 BB (VPIP: 42.42, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 33)
      CO: 75 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 139)
      BTN: 146.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 33)
      SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 7.50, PFR: 3.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 81)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

      UTG raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

      Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: 5:spade: 9:heart:
      UTG checks, Hero bets 10.5 BB, UTG raises to 38.5 BB, Hero raises to 120 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.5 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (223.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club:

      River: (223.5 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:

      UTG shows 9:spade: T:spade: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
      (Pre 23%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows A:club: A:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
      (Pre 77%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
      UTG wins 210 BB
  • 6 replies
    • Netgames999
      Netgames999
      Silver
      Joined: 12.11.2006 Posts: 1,895
      Preflop can be bigger. Maybe around 13bb. Flop bet/call. If you shove he might fold something like 88 or TT. You will get it in anyways and there are no scare cards.


      I think a while about it and end up giving him the following range: AA (really unlikely), KK, QQ, JJ, TT maybe even 99. In addition I give him AK/AQ. According to his stats he playes rather thight so I guess I am better than most of his hands except 99 of course.
      You have 42 hands!
    • Bernasconi
      Bernasconi
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.08.2006 Posts: 486
      Thanks for your feedback!

      I agree about the pre-flop sizing. And my flop play was it completely bad or was it ok to push and you suggest to push on the turn? Not sure if I understand what you want me to tell here.

      What do you mean with "You have 42 hands"? I did not say that based on his stats I gave him exactly that hand. A small tendency should be visible after 42 hands or isn't it? I mean VPIP 12 PFR 4 is not like 80/30. Or how many hands would you rather see to make some conclusions?
    • Netgames999
      Netgames999
      Silver
      Joined: 12.11.2006 Posts: 1,895
      I meant to say bet and call the flop.
      If not on his statistics, what did you base your range on? Showing up with T9s in UTG is not that uncommon.

      I mean VPIP 12 PFR 4 is not like 80/30
      That's probably true. But if he raises the next 7 out of 10 hands he ends up at 26/18, which is way different.

      how many hands would you rather see ...
      For PFR and VPIP around 100.
    • sdf256
      sdf256
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2016 Posts: 201
      Originally posted by Netgames999
      Showing up with T9s in UTG is not that uncommon.
      I would expect T9s from UTG to be a fold vs a 3bet. And even if it wasn't uncommon to call for some players, it is uncommon to open it for 4bb in my opinion.

      Agree with the rest.
    • nitrol
      nitrol
      Silver
      Joined: 24.07.2010 Posts: 12,122
      Originally posted by sdf256
      Originally posted by Netgames999
      Showing up with T9s in UTG is not that uncommon.
      I would expect T9s from UTG to be a fold vs a 3bet. And even if it wasn't uncommon to call for some players, it is uncommon to open it for 4bb in my opinion.

      Agree with the rest.
      You should expect UTG to fold T9s vs a 3b if the 3b size was standard or bigger...
      As it is small, you can expect SCs...
    • Andrepipocado
      Andrepipocado
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.01.2018 Posts: 87
      Raise higher preflop, small sizes do not take maximum value when we are winning and give pot odds favorable to the villain to follow with marginal hands (9Ts is an example). Flop I just call, I do not want to drive out the weak range of the villain (some 77-TT) and maintain a meaningless bluff range from him, since we do not have many bad turns for our hand.

      GL!