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[NL2] QQ overpair

    • RemiRem
      Joined: 27.12.2009 Posts: 79
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      SB: 171.5 BB (VPIP: 12.59, PFR: 10.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.19, Hands: 299)
      BB: 80 BB
      Hero (UTG): 100 BB
      UTG+1: 155 BB (VPIP: 17.62, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 263)
      MP: 189 BB (VPIP: 11.46, PFR: 7.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 195)
      MP+1: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      MP+2: 201 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 40)
      CO: 12 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: Q:diamond:

      Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 12.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

      Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) J:club: 9:club: 4:spade:
      BB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

      Turn: (53.5 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
      BB bets 28 BB, Hero ?

      Villan is unknown. Should I just stack off with overpair after calling 3bet preflop? Or 4bet/ fold? Its NL2 zoom, so 3bet from BB has quite narrow range i guess. AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK,AQ, AJs . AK, AQ would not bet turn here in most cases, what do you think?
  • 5 replies
    • zetozinho
      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 680
      I think you do the correct play which calling IP pre-flop. If you 4bet here he's only continuing with the premiums and you don't want that. Besides, if he 5bets shoves you're probably folding.
      You block a lot of the draws on that board (hands like KQ, QJ, QT, Q9). In a situation like this I'm raising the flop more often than I'm calling in order to avoid spots like this turn.

      I agree that with the bet OTT you can pretty much rule out A high hands from his range. He's got either a set (JJ, 99) pocket pair (TT+), or TP (AJ).
      It's a tough spot imo. If you want to continue here I think shoving is better.
    • Tomaloc
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,279
      this turn is great.
      that said, this spot is just a guessing game on whether villain is wide/trigger happy (KK+, draws, Jx, overcards/relative trash) or just a standard micro full ring nit (KK+), i haven't played these games in a very long time so no clue. the fact that villain doesn't have a full stack might make us more inclined to call it off, but don't count on it.
    • CucumbaMan
      Joined: 13.10.2017 Posts: 317
      Yeah, I believe you should just stack off on this runout. Or at least that's what I would do.
    • Sunrise1912
      Joined: 24.11.2009 Posts: 420
      Never played full ring but i think you cant fold QQ here, especially vs a non full stack guy.

      If the tendencies at full ring are 3bets to be AA and KK only vs early opens you can fold but i doubt it
    • MLima1984
      Joined: 19.05.2015 Posts: 183
      I think i would 4bet pre. do u guys think that would be too much?

      Anyway, im 3beting OTF for sure and a call OTR is ok.

      PS i just noticed its full ring so, maybe my line of thought isnt correct.