I realy need some advices about poker softwers

    • karmolll
      karmolll
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      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 101
      Hi I recived my starting capital at Mansion 8 mounths ago i managed to build a nice banckroll and hit the 0.50-1$ NL stakes but i made a realy big mistake i cashed out 2500 and from a breack even period (last mounth) i lost 500 in 1 hour session and for me the mansion experience is about to end , its too oubvious that their soft controls my banckroll size with every hand i play , i ll still try few more times , if nothing good happenes i ll quit and find another room to play.
      Since i started i never used any kind od aditional softwere , but i heard that there are lots of usefull softs that can help a poker player , till now i didn t felt i need any of these but now i m ready to try some of them and see how they can help my game , even i m pretty sure they can t change the swing i m set into from the mansion s dealer.
      So please give me your advice about what softwere do i need , what are they dooing and where can i find them and how do i track them to the poker platform .
      I heard about Pokertracker and i am realy considering this one .
      please give your advice


      Thx in advance :
      Karmolll
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    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      If you are playing ring games Pokertracker is good for you to track your progress and keep an eye on your stats and opponents.
      What in particular are u looking to keep a track of?
    • darkonebg
      darkonebg
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      Holdem manager is better than PT in every aspect. I suggest you try it.
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      Originally posted by darkonebg
      Holdem manager is better than PT in every aspect. I suggest you try it.
      does it cost anything?
    • karmolll
      karmolll
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      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 101
      I used to play full ring but i can t find any good table at mansion NL100 so i switched to SH
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by darkonebg
      Holdem manager is better than PT in every aspect. I suggest you try it.
      Personall opinion of HEM user obviously... ^^

      I prefer PT3 more, but that's the reason why there are trial versions available. Try each one and then decide which suits you the most.
    • Cakara
      Cakara
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      Joined: 10.11.2007 Posts: 139
      Originally posted by darkonebg
      Holdem manager is better than PT in every aspect. I suggest you try it.
      Do you play at Stars?

      If you do does HUD stats in HEM appears immediately after opening table or you actually have to play a hand before stats appears?

      And one more thing is there any table selection tool in HEM like Table Tracker in PT3?
    • SoyCD
      SoyCD
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      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 6,356
      Hello karmolll,

      You have essentially 3 choices of software:

      The PokerStrategy Elephant: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/software/9/

      Although some players complain about still lacking features and computer slowdown - it is constantly being improved and being worked on internally. Since you are Diamond the license is free - and installing the Full Version won't cost you anything.

      PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com/products/PT3/download.php

      You can use a free trial to give it a shot - it costs 59,30 EUR in our shop (http://de.shop.pokerstrategy.com/products/Software/PokerTracker-3-ca-13-unter-UVP-9000-$.html). Its a pretty decent tool - although also still in the works

      Hold'Em Manager: http://rvgsoftware.fileburst.com/holdemmanager.zip

      I also put the link to the trial version at the top. It costs 52,85 EUR in our shop (http://de.shop.pokerstrategy.com/products/Software/HoldemManager-pro-ca-15-unter-UVP-8000-$.html) and has a lot of fans among our userbase. I haven't tried it myself but it should be quite good for NL cash players.

      All-in all using any of these 3 is definitely better than none at all. I would therefore give at least the trial versions a shot. You can also import the hands you played in the past (Mansion saves them to your harddrive usually). This will let you look at your biggest winning/losing hands as well as your general pre-flop and postflop stats.

      Be sure to post them in the forum (I'm sure you'd get some advice in either the Diamond Forum: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1441 or the general NL Board: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1375)

      Best regards
      SoyCD
    • Kimber88
      Kimber88
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      Joined: 08.07.2008 Posts: 1,333
      Originally posted by karmolll
      its too oubvious that their soft controls my banckroll size with every hand i play ,
      Not again.. Come on :rolleyes:

      As for your question I have tried both PT3 and HEM, and I have to say I find them both to be really nice software.

      Try both on the trial and make up your mind after that.

      Good luck,
      Kimber88
    • karmolll
      karmolll
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      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 101
      Thx alot SoyCD i already downloaded poker tracker I let him import all my hands i watched some temporary stats and i foun out some strange situations after 30k hands imported i have AKo a muck better hand than AKs witch is almost a loser :) ) 88 and 55 are big winers while 99 is one of the bigest losers in the house :) )
      i ll wait to import all my hands ( i hope it will finish in 24 hours ) and than i ll study and share with u my results and asck for some advices


      But ... as far as i know poker players use more softwers to help their game cane u please recomand me some other softwers .. like ... i heard about "equilator" or something like that is it good? or some calculators .. i don t know ..... ; how many programs do u use ?? i don t want to limit myself to this pokertracker

      Thx again
    • SoyCD
      SoyCD
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      Hello karmolll,

      For analysing your play and the play of your opponents a tracking program as I have listed are perfect. Essentially those programs are the ones you will be using while playing (and ofc to analyse your play afterwards).

      The Equilator is not a program you will be using while playing - but it is one of the most important analysis tools around: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/software/6/

      It allows you to calculate the Equity of your hands versus other hands as well as calculating the Equity of specific hands vs ranges of hands or even ranges vs ranges. As such it is great for seeing if you truly had the needed equity to make tough calls - etc. etc.

      With the Equilator + a tracking tool you are essentially set for playing cash games.

      I would also recommend checking out related articles on the subject:

      PokerTracker Stats: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/183/
      Equilator (Fixed Limit article but also just as applicable for NL): http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/fixed-limit/1047/

      Best regards
      SoyCD