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[NL5] am I lacking value with my turn check?

    • diabloykiss
      diabloykiss
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2018 Posts: 63
      I 3bet KK after 2 villain just standard to make both call. Sometimes I add 3 bb more for the extra player but they fold too much.
      The overcaller I set his range mostly poket pairs looking for set value and some suited broadways, maybe AQ AJ but I don't think so.

      The momment he calls my flop bet, He may already be ahead with set and as I block the draws like KJ, I decided to just check for pot control and let his bluffs in for river. Once the T doubles and he checks, he may still have Q, like AQ or QJ so I decide to value bet hard 3/4 pot to xtract big from his hand and fold to a raise given the case. His call is just terrible but what I am asking is if I should've bet turn and river then smaller or my approach is good. I wanted to avoid a check/raise OTT.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (CO): 155.6 BB
      BTN: 109 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
      SB: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 20.81, PFR: 17.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.51, Hands: 1,296)
      BB: 129 BB (VPIP: 46.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 29)
      UTG: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 10.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 68)
      MP: 112.4 BB (VPIP: 16.22, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 38)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:club: K:spade:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB, MP calls 7 BB

      Flop: (31.4 BB, 3 players) T:club: Q:club: 6:diamond:
      UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 10.2 BB, fold, MP calls 10.2 BB

      Turn: (51.8 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
      MP checks, Hero checks

      River: (51.8 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
      MP checks, Hero bets 38.6 BB, MP calls 38.6 BB

      Hero shows K:club: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
      (Pre 80%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
      MP mucks 8:diamond: 8:heart: (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
      (Pre 20%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins 123.6 BB


      thanks!:milord:
  • 5 replies
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
      Moderator
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      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 39,560
      I would most likely 3bet even more like 12bb pre-flop and on the flop you can easy bet more than half pot for value and protection. On turn I would bet most of the time for value and protection as well. As played the river bet seems standard.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • diabloykiss
      diabloykiss
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2018 Posts: 63
      how u react then to a raise flop or turn? as I block the draws I really wouldnt know what to do as a raise set me almost all in and commited.
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,489
      Absolutely a bigger squeeze preflop. Also you can go a bit bigger OTF.
      You should not use small sizings just to get as many guys in the pot as possible. Yes you have a strong hand but the more players you invite in the pot and the more free/cheap cards you get, the better you make sure someone will outdraw you.
      I would also bet OTT.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,216
      Squeeze bigger pre as already said, and cbet at least half pot. This is not a flop texture on which you wanna go 1/3.
      The turn check is weird, you still have a ton of value.
    • zetozinho
      zetozinho
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 292
      Im probably double barreling with decent sizes and evaluate OTR.
      With the turn check, I like the river bet. A Queen is probably calling here.