[NL2-NL10] FR NL5 "innocent" flop for JJ

    • Bubalus
      Bubalus
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      Joined: 02.08.2008 Posts: 1,037
      Got dealt JJ and raised. Villain on the button called. Flop was quite safe for JJ, so I made a bet. Villain called immediately. Turn brought a number, so I made another bet. Again Villain called immediately. At that time it made me a little suspicious. Here are my thoughts:
      1) He might had had two overcards(or two pictures) and he was chasing. I have seen it many times.
      2) If he had had bigger PP, he would have re-raised me or gone all-in pre-flop. So I didnt put him on AA; KK; QQ. Possible hands he also could have had: AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ.
      3) It is very unlikely that he hit two pairs on the flop as there were small numbers on board and probably wouldnt have called with hand like 95 preflop
      4) It is also possible that he held a hand like A9s and hit top pair on the flop with good kicker.

      Anyway, as I felt something was wrong, I made a minimum bet on the river. Maybe the best move could have been to check. I would have gone all-in if didnt have had that suspicious feeling.
      Could I have played that hand differently and should I have gone all-in no matter what?
      I had difficulties converting the hand history, so I just post the log.
      I can also tell the results if it is necessary.
      One more thing: It is my earlier hand and I played SSS with 50bb in the smallest table. Now sticking to the NL10 though. I hope it doesnt affect the current hand result.



      Seat 2 is the button
      Total number of players : 10
      Seat 5: ASTON166 ( $2.47 USD )
      Seat 10: HERO ( $1.99 USD )
      Seat 2: Villain ( $4.16 USD )
      Seat 8: Khaym ( $1.58 USD )
      Seat 1: Morcego555 ( $2.04 USD )
      Seat 6: RatherShort2 ( $1.75 USD )
      Seat 9: Sbastien555 ( $4.37 USD )
      Seat 7: ramprox ( $4.77 USD )
      Seat 3: spordikool ( $6.09 USD )
      Seat 4: suato99 ( $1.98 USD )
      spordikool posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
      suato99 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].

      ** Dealing down cards **

      Dealt to HERO [ Jc Jd ]
      ASTON166 folds
      RatherShort2 folds
      ramprox folds
      Sbastien555 folds
      HERO raises [$0.16 USD]
      Morcego555 folds
      Villain calls [$0.16 USD]
      spordikool folds
      suato99 folds

      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 4h, 9c ]
      HERO bets [$0.18 USD]
      Villain calls [$0.18 USD]

      ** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
      HERO bets [$0.35 USD]
      Villain calls [$0.35 USD]

      ** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
      HERO bets [$0.04 USD]
      Villain calls [$0.04 USD]
  • 5 replies
    • dadude77
      dadude77
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      Joined: 26.10.2008 Posts: 1,516
      With 50bb's its really not "shortstack" Its more a middle stack. The strategy won't really apply or work too well there.
    • Schnitzelfisch
      Schnitzelfisch
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      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 4,952
      Hello!

      please convert your hand next time using http://www.weaktight.com or a similar site :) .

      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ASTON166 ($2.47)
      UTG+1 RatherShort2 ($1.75)
      MP1 ramprox ($4.77)
      MP2 Sbastien555 ($4.37)
      MP3 Hero ($1.99)
      CO Morcego555 ($2.04)
      BTN Villain ($4.16)
      SB spordikool ($6.09)
      BB suato99 ($1.98)

      Pre-flop: ($0.06, 9 players) Hero is MP3 J:club: J:diamond:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 1 fold, Villain calls $0.16, 2 folds

      Flop: 5:spade: 4:heart: 9:club: ($0.38, 2 players)
      Hero bets $0.18, Villain calls $0.18

      Turn: T:heart: ($0.74, 2 players)
      Hero bets $0.35, Villain calls $0.35

      River: 6:club: ($1.44, 2 players)
      Hero bets $0.04, Villain calls $0.04

      Final Pot: $1.52

      Now for the hand evaluation:

      1. You are NOT playing the SSS in this hand (SSS on NL5 is on some sites unfortunately impossible). So I suggest you either play BSS on NL5 or SSS or NL10 because this game style only gives you disadvantages ov BSS and SSS :( .

      2. Now, if you did have a stack suitable for the game, you should have bet 2/3 pot on the flop (you're OOP!), and then try to move all-in on the turn.

      Regards,

      Primzi
    • Bubalus
      Bubalus
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      Joined: 02.08.2008 Posts: 1,037
      Thanks for reply and the link! I now play SSS NL10 only :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Bubalus
      Thanks for reply and the link! I now play SSS NL10 only :)
      Good :)

      Thanks Primzi for converting;

      Your stacksize is already mentioned and you moved up to NL10 so I wont comment on that but a Continuation bet is 2/3 pot and $0.18 into a $0.38 pot is like 50% so I would bet like $0.3 postflop and continue betting 2/3 on the Turn.

      If the bet on the turn is >50% of your remaining stack , go all-in instead.

      As played I dont understand your minbet as Villain easily can holding A9/AT, trash or 76 like hands. Just go all-in with JJ and expect a payout on NL5 :)

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • Bubalus
      Bubalus
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      Joined: 02.08.2008 Posts: 1,037
      I asked myself why would he call immediately without a strong hand. So I made minbet because I had a feeling that my hand is beat. He showed me a set of 9-s at showdown. I usually go all-in in that situation of course, but this time I had "that" feeling:)