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1$ | FR | T |betsizing| AJo

    • maniac
      maniac
      Silver
      Joined: 29.03.2006 Posts: 7,449
      hi,

      do we value bet vs fish and regs 3 streets? If I bet river and get raised do I have to assume I am beat? Imo if I think I am beat I have to play c/c to keep his range wider.

      Party, $2 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 1,477 (73.9 bb)
      BB: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
      Hero (UTG+1): 1,497 (74.9 bb)
      UTG+2: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
      MP1: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
      MP2: 1,964 (98.2 bb)
      MP3: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
      CO: 1,167 (58.4 bb)
      BTN: 1,407 (70.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with :Js: :Ac:
      Hero raises to 62, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 62, 3 folds, BTN calls 62, 2 folds

      Flop: (243) :Tc: :Jc: :Jd: (3 players)
      Hero bets 160, MP1 calls 160, BTN folds

      Turn: (563) :6d: (2 players)
      Hero bets 371, MP1 calls 371

      River: (1,305) :Kc: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets 420, Hero calls 420

      Results:
      2,145 pot
      Final Board: :Tc: :Jc: :Jd: :6d: :Kc:
      Hero mucked :Js: :Ac: and lost (-1,016 net)
      MP1 showed :Kd: :Kh: and won 2,145 (1,129 net)


      greets

      maniac
  • 3 replies
    • Mayb3n0T
      Mayb3n0T
      Silver
      Joined: 03.01.2017 Posts: 572
      Vs a fish i think it's ok to bet 3 streets for value because they can sometimes call with a Tx or mid pp but i don't think you have space to bet fold on the river so it should be all in on the river. Vs a reg i can consider to check/fold because this is one of the worst cards, it completes a lot of things and i don't know what worst combos call when you bet.

      Cumps ;)
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 39,590
      I would bet for 3 streets as well with shoving the river in the end against a fish.
      He can easy call with a weaker hand, but the river card isn't the greatest card with the straight and flush that hit his range well.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 6,279
      Would shove river versus pretty much anyone. Thing is that if villain is reg its bit questionable how many flush combos he can have considering you block nut flush. Most regs are not calling those 87s type hands from early position facing UTG raise. So in a way versus fish I would be more concerned of being beat but then again you have clearly less than 1 PSB left and still have strong holding that can be called by some weaker Jx, KQ at least.