[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH QQ against river push

    • mrxLT
      Joined: 02.09.2008 Posts: 435
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed)

      saw flop

      CO ($19.53)
      Button ($19.31)
      SB ($26.49)------38/17/2,8 (40h)
      BB ($41.33)
      Hero (UTG) ($25)
      MP ($32.27)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
      Hero bets $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

      Flop: ($2.25) 9, 7, 3 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75

      Turn: ($5.75) 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.70, SB calls $4.70

      River: ($15.15) 7 (2 players)
      SB bets $19.04 (All-In), Hero folds
  • 5 replies
    • erptech
      Joined: 15.03.2008 Posts: 659
      This board hits his range pretty well, so its a fold, but also I don't think call is such a terrible choice because he can have a worse hand like two pair quite often.
      But fold.
    • csnmf
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      I think the general consensus is that when a fish overbets it's not a value shove it's because he wants fold equity<---take from that what you will.

      Hearts missed, 108, 86 missed. 65 and j10 got there. But there are still a load of boat combinations 78, 79, flopped sets which maybe he was scared to c/r on the turn (even though they should prob just c/r flop). You can't discount a hand like a 76 or 107 that picked up a draw on the turn.

      W/O reads should just find a fold, you pretty much only beat a bluff
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Nice hand, well played. Looks like the villain wants to get max value, guess he have beaten you.
    • caltabiano
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      I don't think he shows up with bluff often enough to justify a call here. I don't think it would be too bad though, you need him to bluff 30% of the time, which I don't think is enough. However, you call and get a note on him which is also something worth money.

      I would fold, but calling wouldn't be so terrible
    • darkonebg
      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 9,508
      Good analysis by csnmf!
      As said, against an unknown its a good spot to fold. You need to be ahead way to often in order to make the call +ev,and most of the times its a random 7x that got there.Make a note and call the next time if he does that too often.
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