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$0.50 PokerStars 45-Man Turbo | FT, ITM|2nd in chips vs chipleader| TT

    • adasko99
      adasko99
      Gold
      Joined: 13.02.2011 Posts: 2,202
      PokerStars - 600/1200 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 1,866 (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 13.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
      BB: 10,905 (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
      Hero (UTG): 14,621
      MP: 9,072 (VPIP: 15.58, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 79)
      CO: 21,764 (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 52)
      BTN: 9,272 (VPIP: 11.32, PFR: 9.62, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 56)

      6 players post ante of 75, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2,250) Hero has T:diamond: T:spade:

      Hero raises to 2,400, fold, CO calls 2,400, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: (7,050, 2 players) Q:club: 9:heart: 8:club:
      Hero bets 3,878, CO raises to 7,756, Hero??? :f_ugly:
  • 9 replies
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 6,270
      You dont really want to induce with TT here and also to avoid these sort of stuff go for preflop shove. Its pretty questionable to have any minraise range this shallow in final table as second stack. But if we want to minraise as trap with something I would probably only do it with QQ+ or so. But that would likely be totally unbalanced minraise range without any weaker holdings.

      As played checking flop and going from there but nasty spot. Once you make that big cbet you just have to go with it and hope for best.
    • DSharkP
      DSharkP
      Silver
      Joined: 16.09.2012 Posts: 353
      Hey Man,

      I d probably Check-Call in this Spot and analyze on the Turn.
      This is a classic tricky spot , even in Cash Games, and the fact that You also get a Gutshot just makes me wanna check even more cause i dont wanna get pushed out of this hand, and the villain could be doing that with any Straight/Flush Draw + is Stronger Holdings...As played I d probably let it go since your stack would still be around the average 9k but hey I am no pro =)
    • maniac
      maniac
      Silver
      Joined: 29.03.2006 Posts: 7,446
      shove pre. realize you ev. Induce QQ+ seems nive. No cbet an reeval turn seems legit. Its like ghale mentioned before.

      greets

      maniac
    • adasko99
      adasko99
      Gold
      Joined: 13.02.2011 Posts: 2,202
      thanks everyone :f_drink:
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 39,560
      Even induce with QQ is tricky in a 45 man SNG with a lot of ICM in it and I would most likely shove with my entire shoving range here. As played you can't do much else than folding the flop. If you call you investing so much chips that you are committed on the turn.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 6,270
      After that cbet hero has around 8.3k behind. So if he shoves flop he is investing that for pot around 31k. So in cEV he needs 27% equity and because of ICM we want somewhat more even with our short stack.

      If villain only has like AQ, KQ and nothing else we have 25.6% but if we add e.g. AcTc, AcJc, A9s, 99, 88 we get into 30% equity. So yeah I would not cbet and if I did I would use more like 2.5k size but once we have cbet 3.8k we must be very sure that villain is never having like A9s or draw type hands to fold anymore.

      Also if folding blinds will hit our stack really heavily so personally I would go with this spot and see if we get into huge chip leader position and possibility to dominate final table after that.
    • DSharkP
      DSharkP
      Silver
      Joined: 16.09.2012 Posts: 353
      I would def Shove pre, but as played I would not bet that Flop, Check-Call would be my line here and analyze the Turn , but all in all in this Spot you should have Just Shoved
    • adasko99
      adasko99
      Gold
      Joined: 13.02.2011 Posts: 2,202
      Thanks all :f_thumbsup:
    • OldSchoolPapa
      OldSchoolPapa
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.10.2010 Posts: 465
      Inducing @ micros is really not a good idea. Usually i would more go for a shove pre-flop unless specific table dynamic.
      But in that situation postflop i would try to play a very small pot or even fold against lot of action.
      Also my goal is to reach atleast the 3 first places so against a stack able to hurt me badly i would be more cautious but there it depends of your inner style and goals you want to achieve.

      Best of Skills & Luck @ Tables,
      OldSchoolPapa.