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[NL5] NL5 Zoom KQo

    • SZEBI18
      SZEBI18
      Silver
      Joined: 17.04.2009 Posts: 1,399
      Hi!

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $5 (100 bb)
      BB: $9.41 (188.2 bb)
      UTG: $4.05 (81 bb)
      MP: $3.44 (68.8 bb)
      CO: $9.13 (182.6 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with :Qs: :Kh:
      UTG raises to $0.12, MP folds, CO calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.38, CO folds

      Flop: ($1.19) :Kd: :4s: :Qh: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

      Turn: ($2.19) :Jc: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG raises to $3.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.65

      River: ($8.29) :5h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $8.29 pot ($0.34 rake)
      Final Board: :Kd: :4s: :Qh: :Jc: :5h:
      UTG showed :Tc: :Ac: and won $7.95 ($3.90 net)
      Hero showed :Qs: :Kh: and lost (-$4.05 net)


      Was this a right call on the turn. I thought top two par was to good to fold vs an unknown Villain.
  • 11 replies
    • zetozinho
      zetozinho
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 287
      I think pre I'm just calling the OR.
      OTT he could have made a straight or a set, but I mean... KK, QQ you block. Is he calling JJ OTF after you 3 bet and two overcards to his hand appeared? Unlikely imo.
      So what the hell does he shove with? Can't see many hands.
      Tough spot for sure, would like to see more opinions.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,207
      Nh all along.
      KQo is a good squeeze because overcalling versus opponents' early range hasn't that much playability.
      Turn it's often AT, right, but you can't fold with the odds and all. That's poker.
    • Sunrise1912
      Sunrise1912
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      Joined: 24.11.2009 Posts: 418
      You cant fold here. Not vs this 80BB fishy guy. I might find the fold if we are > than 150 BB deep as i realize they never bluff the turn here. You are against a value hand. This guy, however, can consider a value hand KJ/QJ and pair + drow like JT
    • CptJokerFish
      CptJokerFish
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      Joined: 06.06.2017 Posts: 990
      Easy Fold vs. Turn reraise on NL5. Because of calls like this people dont beat microstakes or have very low win-rates (Ok, there are also a lot of other reasons :-D But this is one of them.). The micro pool is just bluffing way to less.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,207
      Originally posted by CptJokerFish
      Easy Fold vs. Turn reraise on NL5. Because of calls like this people dont beat microstakes or have very low win-rates (Ok, there are also a lot of other reasons :-D But this is one of them.). The micro pool is just bluffing way to less.
      Well, apparently there are people that got away from micros even with making weird folds implying they were quite clueless about pot odds so everything is possible ;)
    • CptJokerFish
      CptJokerFish
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      Joined: 06.06.2017 Posts: 990
      Ok, I see it was a just min-reraise (min-all-in :-D I havent read the hand history correctly). Then I change my opinion from fold to call he needs only 31.54%.
      But vs. a full stacked player I fold vs. Turn all-in reraise on microstakes.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
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      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,207
      I find he needs only 20%. I think tonight coaching will definitely profit you :D
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,489
      Well played on all streets imo.

      Pre is definitely a squeeze. Or a fold. No calling imo.
      Flop is just fine.
      OTT you need less than 20% to make a profitable call. Villain looks like a recreational player (short stack) and those guys even bluff raise more aggressively than regulars.
    • zetozinho
      zetozinho
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      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 287
      Originally posted by la55i
      Pre is definitely a squeeze. Or a fold. No calling imo.
      Why can't you call here IP vs UTG?
    • CptJokerFish
      CptJokerFish
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      Joined: 06.06.2017 Posts: 990
      Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
      I find he needs only 20%. I think tonight coaching will definitely profit you :D
      lol I have made the calculation wrong. I´m so bad when it comes to reading hand historys. I make so often mistakes when I read these lines rofl.

      Okay now just to save my honor :roto2:

      $2.19 Flop pot
      Hero bets $1.40
      New pot size $3.59
      UTG raise $3.05
      new pot size: $6.64
      Hero has to call $1.65

      6.64 / 1.65 = 4,024242424242424 to 1
      1 / ( 1 + 4,024242424242424 ) = 19,90349819059107 % :f_p:
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Originally posted by zetozinho
      Originally posted by la55i
      Pre is definitely a squeeze. Or a fold. No calling imo.
      Why can't you call here IP vs UTG?
      It just doesn't play that well postflop. The hand being off-suit decreases its playability and it can also be dominated. Both UTG and CO can have AK and AQ hands.