[NL2-NL10] Nl100 KJo

    • Gerv
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      saw flop

      Button ($100)
      SB ($23.65)
      BB ($100)


      UTG ($167.85)
      UTG+1 ($48.90)
      MP1 ($119.40)
      MP2 ($18.50)
      Hero (CO) ($19.50)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, J
      4 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

      Flop: ($7.50) K, 9, 3 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises $20, Hero ?

      BEQ = $16+$7.5+$4x0.95 : 12
      =
      2.17:1 = 31.5%

      Although that aint mattering since it is either Way Ahead or Way Behind. His c/r 5% worried me if my KJ is good. I put him on 99+, KT+ and maybe some airballs

      Thoughts?
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    • wuusaa
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      he is very aggressive(could raise a flushdraw) on the flop & you need just 30%
      i call it with a bad feeling that i am way behind.
    • Gerv
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      Despite his high fold2cbet%, would a funky check behind be a better alternative? Since he plays 7/2 on BB but he calls 11% of the time against a steal.
    • burek2000
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      His call to ATS is 11%, so I believe he can c/r the flop with quite many hands. Like FD, TP, MP, even some medium PPs...

      I personally instashove flop here against 85% fold BB to ATS and expect to be ahead most of the time plus you get a note on him.

      Besides, call pre and c/r flop I found quite often way of play in blind battles on NL100 and usually is not a sign of very strong hand, mostly semibluffs from my experience.
    • wuusaa
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      a check behind is always possible, also for bluff induce on the turn.

      But here you have to make a decision if you want to go broke or not.
      what would you do if he donks the turn? push him?
      or he can check-raise the turn if you place a delayed contibet

      so its a must have conti bet here (on a King high board)

      i go broke here



      edit:
      why should you insta shove the flop??
      do you instashove A8 here too?
      you should, if you play this style
    • burek2000
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      Originally posted by wuusaa
      why should you insta shove the flop??
      do you instashove A8 here too?
      you should, if you play this style
      I'd shove the flop to his c/r because I find TP ahead of his c/r range. On the other hand, I don't see why should one shove A8 since A8 would miss this flop completely and c-bet in that case would be a pure bluff...

      ...maybe you thought A9 in this case, but I think middle pair is far weaker than top pair, because every PP TT+ is ahead and overcards have outs on you in that case. So, shoving A9 is a bit marginal imo.
    • wuusaa
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      we mean the same, burek.

      i understood you, that you insta shove the flop, and not make a 1/2 contibet

      we call the contibet raise, yes
    • burek2000
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      Originally posted by wuusaa
      we mean the same, burek.

      i understood you, that you insta shove the flop, and not make a 1/2 contibet

      we call the contibet raise, yes
      :)
    • drachdudek
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      according his stats he could have lot ofs...fold after his raise is my option, better save money for better hand...but anway, i think he was catching the flush...
    • brundoo
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      Originally posted by drachdudek
      ...fold after his raise is my option, better save money for better hand...
      then just fold preflop.I'm no expert but how can you fold after hiting nearly perfect flop.he is maybe trapping, but if not you are ahead on flop.
    • wuusaa
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      Originally posted by brundoo
      Originally posted by drachdudek
      ...fold after his raise is my option, better save money for better hand...
      then just fold preflop.I'm no expert but how can you fold after hiting nearly perfect flop.he is maybe trapping, but if not you are ahead on flop.

      this!
    • Gerv
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      The Fold preflop thing 0o?

      Or the Fold after raise thing 0o??

      Or Shove because we got TPTK and screw his trapping 3rd level thinking game plan ? :)

      I like the latter one
    • wuusaa
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      i also take the last one :)
    • ysessa
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      I think a call here is pretty marginal, villain looks pretty straight forward against cbets and will maybe trap preflop. I think you do nothing wrong by just folding your tpmk her, but also calling for info should not be a big leak, but i would expect to often see a trap a set or a strong draw.