[NL2-NL10] NL10 QJs limp

    • mishuq
      mishuq
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      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 436
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG cicero.NL ($9.55)
      UTG+1 marvian53 ($9.75)
      UTG+2 domogo ($10.00)
      MP1 Historyx1x ($12.84)
      MP2 mishuq ($1.90)
      MP3 xGaMeRzGoDx ($5.70)
      CO Gissc27 ($10.14)
      BTN Felicitas91 ($9.85)
      SB Jaster3 ($8.08)
      BB laffao ($28.46)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 10 players)
      1 fold, marvian53 calls $0.10, 2 folds, mishuq calls $0.10, 3 folds, Jaster3 calls $0.05, laffao checks

      Flop: J:spade: J:club: 5:heart: ($0.40, 4 players)
      Jaster3 checks, laffao bets $0.10, 1 fold, mishuq calls $0.10, Jaster3 folds

      Turn: 5:diamond: ($0.60, 2 players)
      laffao bets $0.10, mishuq bets $0.20, laffao calls $0.10.

      River: J:heart: ($1.00, 2 players)
      laffao checks, mishuq bets $0.50, laffao calls $0.50.

      Final Pot: $2
      mishuq shows: J:diamond: Q:diamond:

      mishuq wins $1.90 ( won +$1.00 )
      Jaster3 lost -$0.10
      laffao lost -$0.90
      marvian53 lost -$0.10


      I don't usually play such hands, but it was a card dead hour so I limped because the other guy that limped before me was a calling station (and yeah, he folded and I stayed in the hand with an unknown villain who's 25 hands stats were 30/0 vp$ip/AF)
      can one extract more value from this sort of hands ? would he call a flop raise ?
  • 7 replies
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Wow, Trips on flop, Full House on turn and Quads on River? That's rare.

      I'd lead out betting from the flop. But as played I think you should have raised turn to at least 2/3 pot for value and then go broke on river.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      First and most important:"Fold preflop!"

      You don't have the odds and the stack to limp in from middle position.

      As played, I would call flop, but raise villains minbet to potsize on the turn and shove river.
    • mishuq
      mishuq
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      don't have many stats about him but I don't think he's that big of a fish to call a JJx flop raise with a hand he couldn't raise.
      imo you can't get too much profit from such hands against 95% of the opponents :|
      so..as I said before, with such a hand I think a flop raise would only loose value and slowplaying it in general is better because of the pf limp and because villain can't call raises (if he doesn't hold pocket 55 ofc O_o ) and can't bluff this (except if he's a complete moron and limped pocket QQ+)
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      FOLD PREFLOP !!!!!
    • mishuq
      mishuq
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      "I don't usually play such hands, but it was a card dead hour"

      Here, "usually" means never if I play sss and if I'm not on NL50+ and am in a good spot and I have stats and so on..I got tired

      perhaps I would also add this if I was unsure of that: "QJs -> is it in the chart ? do you think it should be ?! look! I got quads with it!! I think it should...."

      :O no fun in posting hands here...
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      nl10 ..... just stick to SHC
      QJs is not in it , you are playing on mp2 and dont have implied odds with 20bb stack also sss is raise or fold
      If you are bored sss is not the way to go
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by mishuq
      but it was a card dead hour so I limped
      This is a leak, stop doing this because you will lose money!

      Any raise, you have to fold and if you call the raise , you are playing OOP with a marginal holding + being shortstacked.

      As played call the turn and raise him on the river. now you got iniative on the river by raising him on the turn and your raise on the Turn is minimal ...

      If you want to play QJ/KJ stuff , I suggest you go try BSS ;)

      Best regards,
      Gerv

      PS Everything members say is constructive feedback ;)