Downswing or bad play

    • jotap27
      jotap27
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      Hi Guys,

      I will post some hands and hope you can tell me if i am having a downswing or playing bad. My stats are 21/17/2


      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:heart: , K:spade: . Hero posts a blind of $0,10.
      BB posted big blind of just $0,10 and is all-in.
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $1,40, BU calls $1,40, SB folds, BB calls $1,15.

      Flop: ($4,30) 2:spade: , 9:club: , 4:spade: (3 players)
      BB bets $0,75, Hero calls $0,75, BU folds.

      Turn: ($5,80) A:diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $1,00, Hero raises to $4,00, BB calls $3,00.

      River: ($13,80) 3:spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $6,25, Hero calls $6,25.

      Final Pot: $26,30

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ah Ks)
      BB shows a straight, five high (Kh 5c)

      BB wins with a straight, five high (Kh 5c)

      Regards
      JotaP
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    • jotap27
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      0,25/0,5 Pot-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:club: , K:heart: . CO posts a blind of $0,25.
      BB posted big blind of just $0,25 and is all-in.
      4 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $2,00, SB folds, BB calls $1,50, CO calls $1,50.

      Flop: ($6,50) 9:heart: , 7:heart: , 5:spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4,20, BB calls $4,20, CO calls $4,20.

      Turn: ($19,10) 6:diamond: (3 players)
      BB bets $10,00, CO folds, Hero raises to $20,00 (All-In), BB calls $6,90 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($52,90) A:heart: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $52,90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of kings (Kc Kh)
      BB shows three of a kind, nines (9s 9c)

      BB wins with three of a kind, nines (9s 9c)
    • jotap27
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      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with 9:club: , 6:club:
      Hero calls $0,50, MP1 calls $0,50, 2 folds, CO calls $0,50, BU folds, SB calls $0,25, BB checks.

      Flop: ($2,50) 3:club: , 2:diamond: , 8:club: (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $1,50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1,50.

      Turn: ($5,50) 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      River: ($5,50) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,50, MP1 raises to $10,00, Hero calls $8,50.

      Final Pot: $25,50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, nine high (9c 6c)
      MP1 shows a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)

      MP1 wins with a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)
    • jotap27
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      0,25/0,5 Pot-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:heart: , Q:heart:
      MP3 raises to $1,00, Hero calls $1,00, 2 folds, BB calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($3,25) 7:heart: , Q:diamond: , 2:spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, MP3 bets $3,00, Hero calls $3,00, BB folds.

      Turn: ($9,25) 5:heart: (2 players)
      MP3 bets $4,60, Hero calls $4,60.

      River: ($18,45) 6:spade: (2 players)
      MP3 bets $4,00, Hero calls $4,00.

      Final Pot: $26,45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of queens (Kh Qh)
      MP3 shows a pair of aces (Ac Ah)

      MP3 wins with a pair of aces (Ac Ah)


      NOTE That i don't have a similar hand in which the result was in my favour...
    • jotap27
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      0,1/0,25 Pot-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6:spade: , 6:club:
      3 folds, BU raises to $0,85, Hero calls $0,75, BB calls $0,60.

      Flop: ($2,55) 8:spade: , 6:diamond: , 5:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1,25, BU raises to $4,52, Hero raises to $7,79, BB folds, BU calls $3,27.

      Turn: ($19,38) 3:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $9,69, BU calls $9,51 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($38,40) 4:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $38,40

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, sixes (6s 6c)
      BU shows a flush, king high (9d Kd)

      BU wins with a flush, king high (9d Kd)
    • jotap27
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      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6:spade: , 5:spade:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0,85, CO folds, BU calls $0,85, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($2,05) T:diamond: , 6:heart: , 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,29, BU calls $1,29.

      Turn: ($4,63) 9:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3,25, BU calls $3,25.

      River: ($11,13) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6,00, BU raises to $19,61 (All-In), Hero calls $13,61.

      Final Pot: $50,35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, sixes and fives (6s 5s)
      BU shows three of a kind, fours (4h 4d)

      BU wins with three of a kind, fours (4h 4d)
    • 1seednoir1
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      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1458

      here u'll find the help u need :)
    • jotap27
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      Hi,

      So ? no comments on these hands ? I can post more if you want.

      My flush draws stay flush draws and my open-end straight draws remain small straights 10 times in a row, my trips always clash against flushes or straights and also my top pair top kicker seems to be running into sets all the time.

      What can i do ? I have stopped for a while but the situation remains...

      Waiting for you comments

      JP
    • LemOn36
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      Jsus This is so annoying when you can't put them in spoilers. Seriously, if you want to post hands post them to hand discussion one by one, the pokerstrategy forum ain't ready for your multiple posts ;o

      Hand1: I'd raise more turn, the flop bet is a typicall Donk Flush Draw stupidity.
      I also sometimes raise flop against this pussy bet if I know that its one of the throw low amount than relase immediately kind of guy
    • jotap27
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      hi LemOn36,

      Thanks for the tip.

      Regards
      JP
    • LemOn36
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      Originally posted by jotap27
      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with 9:club: , 6:club:
      Hero calls $0,50, MP1 calls $0,50, 2 folds, CO calls $0,50, BU folds, SB calls $0,25, BB checks.

      Flop: ($2,50) 3:club: , 2:diamond: , 8:club: (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $1,50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1,50.

      Turn: ($5,50) 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      River: ($5,50) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,50, MP1 raises to $10,00, Hero calls $8,50.

      Final Pot: $25,50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, nine high (9c 6c)
      MP1 shows a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)

      MP1 wins with a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)
      If you want to mix up your game Fullring, do it at least with single gappers (57s, 79s) and RAISE PREFLOP!
      Never ever limp these hands middle position, or anywhere really. Your goal is to get the benefit of being the PF aggressor and being able to c/bet on flop+having your hand perfectly disguised if you do hit.

      Also, keep in mind that you play single gappers only for the implied odds, so make sure there are anough big stacks that would call you.


      As played you can call flop, but CHECK FOLD all streets (unless a small bet comes on turn, go by equity). The river bet has about 0 fold equity as in a multiway pot at least someone had to have at least a piece of the board.
    • LemOn36
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      Originally posted by jotap27
      0,1/0,25 Pot-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6:spade: , 6:club:
      3 folds, BU raises to $0,85, Hero calls $0,75, BB calls $0,60.

      Flop: ($2,55) 8:spade: , 6:diamond: , 5:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1,25, BU raises to $4,52, Hero raises to $7,79, BB folds, BU calls $3,27.

      Turn: ($19,38) 3:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $9,69, BU calls $9,51 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($38,40) 4:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $38,40

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, sixes (6s 6c)
      BU shows a flush, king high (9d Kd)

      BU wins with a flush, king high (9d Kd)
      1) I like to 3bet 66+ PF when the button raised (you have to know his attempted to steal frequency though)

      2) Don't check the flop! I know you think you are doing some pro sneaky move, but the board is extremely drawy and you got just middle set. You will let them outdraw you and lose value very often! Bet the flop, if you get raised than shove directly.



      EDIT: LOlz, this is Pot Limit :D Nvm :) Still Bet the flop though!
    • LemOn36
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      Originally posted by jotap27
      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6:spade: , 5:spade:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0,85, CO folds, BU calls $0,85, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($2,05) T:diamond: , 6:heart: , 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,29, BU calls $1,29.

      Turn: ($4,63) 9:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3,25, BU calls $3,25.

      River: ($11,13) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6,00, BU raises to $19,61 (All-In), Hero calls $13,61.

      Final Pot: $50,35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, sixes and fives (6s 5s)
      BU shows three of a kind, fours (4h 4d)

      BU wins with three of a kind, fours (4h 4d)
      Here I would just bet more on turn, the nine could have given him a draw and although you don't have to be really concerned about the clubs he can have the draw still.

      The river... Most of the time at these limits overbet means a very strong hand, but I think there is nothing you can do about it without any reads on micros, the standard here is call, he can easily have JJ AT, TJ or simply he's bluffing with busted straight.
    • jotap27
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      Hi LemOn36,

      Thank you for your comments. I am feeling that i have been winning to much and (for that reason) i am making a kind of "slow play" and not betting enough on some streets tring to maximize earnings. But, what i am doing (in fact) is giving odds for my opponents to call. I have got to raise my post flop aggression again.

      Do you agree ?

      Regards
      JP
    • LemOn36
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      Originally posted by jotap27
      Hi LemOn36,

      Thank you for your comments. I am feeling that i have been winning to much and (for that reason) i am making a kind of "slow play" and not betting enough on some streets tring to maximize earnings. But, what i am doing (in fact) is giving odds for my opponents to call. I have got to raise my post flop aggression again.

      Do you agree ?

      Regards
      JP
      Absolutely. Don't even think about slowplaying anything else than flopped Quads, Fullhouses and nut flushes until you got to medium stakes!
    • Olorion
      Olorion
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      Originally posted by jotap27
      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with 9:club: , 6:club:
      Hero calls $0,50, MP1 calls $0,50, 2 folds, CO calls $0,50, BU folds, SB calls $0,25, BB checks.

      Flop: ($2,50) 3:club: , 2:diamond: , 8:club: (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $1,50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1,50.

      Turn: ($5,50) 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      River: ($5,50) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,50, MP1 raises to $10,00, Hero calls $8,50.

      Final Pot: $25,50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, nine high (9c 6c)
      MP1 shows a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)

      MP1 wins with a full-house, threes full of deuces (3h 3d)

      bad play imo, 3bet flop, bet turn would be ok