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[NL2-NL10] Weak overpair OOP vs. preflop raiser

  • 5 replies
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      • 01.04.2009, 20:21
      • This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by maya1984: 01.04.2009 20:24.
      Mine setting at heads up with 99?
      You should raise preflop!
      As played bet 1/2-3/4 of the pot at the flop.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Preflop: Raise it up, don't limp.

      As played
      Flop: Bet ~$0.70.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • Gamer135
      Gamer135
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.07.2008 Posts: 253
      Fair enough. The BSS SHC I was using was telling me to limp with 22-99 from middle position if I'm first to act.
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      Actually on these limits I think limp/call is better than open raise. You should however open raise almost always at higher limits because as players get better you can use your initiative more and disquise your hand more by raising.

      As played bet flop 3/4 pot
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Point is this, by limping:
      1) It will be very easy to recognize with what you are limping.
      2) The opponent makes more profit with it.

      Calculation:
      You hit: 1 of 8,5 times.
      No hit: 7,5 of 8,5 times.
      Opponent raises you to, lets say 5xBB (your limp+4xBB normal raise). On flop you mostly Check/Fold your lower PP after called his raise.
      Opponent loses (-5-8=-$13, $5 is the raise and $8 is the CBet what he needs to make on flop after you Check/Fold). Also you don't hit (you make $5 because from his raise).
      Why the opponent makes more profit with your limping?
      You hit: 1 time of 8,5, opponent loses -$13 (raise+cbet on flop), that means =1*(-13)=-$13. He loses $13 if you hit and CBet on flop.
      If you don't hit: 7,5 time of 8,5, opponent wins $5, =7,5*5=$37,5.
      Now we sum those two =-13+37,5=$24,5. In session our opponent makes =24,5/8,5=$2,88 profit.

      Hope you got the point, I am not really sure if I explained myself clearly. If you have any questions, you can ask. :)

      Best regards,
      Rensu