This site uses cookies to improve your browsing experience. By continuing to browse the website, you accept such cookies. For more details and to change your settings, see our Cookie Policy and Privacy Policy. Close

[NL2] T8s turn

    • Adelardo
      Adelardo
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.03.2008 Posts: 1,739
      Vilain is large agressive. He domine the table.

      PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (CO): 97 BB
      BTN: 89.5 BB (VPIP: 39.53, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
      SB: 124 BB (VPIP: 21.36, PFR: 13.59, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 105)
      BB: 146.5 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 22.45, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 100)
      UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 11.01, PFR: 10.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 112)
      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 47)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:diamond: T:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

      Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) T:spade: Q:club: 5:diamond:
      BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

      Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
      BB bets 29 BB, Hero raises to 75 BB and is all-in, fold

      Hero wins 99 BB
  • 9 replies
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 902
      I think T8 is too weak to flat against 3bet. My default is fold, but I would rather bluff 4bet then flat.
      Flop and turn are standard imo.
    • Adelardo
      Adelardo
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.03.2008 Posts: 1,739
      The problem is Vilain. He is very agressive and after I had to fold some other hands, I have to do something.
    • herrmutig
      herrmutig
      Gold
      Joined: 18.10.2018 Posts: 130
      I would fold pre. There are better hands to flat / 4-bet bluff with. When he really 3-bets 17% it's a close call, but we can't be sure with only 100 hands
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 902
      Originally posted by herrmutig
      When he really 3-bets 17% it's a close call
      Exactly why I’m thinking of bluff 4bet. By default I would fold, but now, after a bit of playing in equilab, I think T9s should be call, T7s should be fold, and T8s is borderline, and I usually use borderline cases as 4bet bluffs.
    • Adelardo
      Adelardo
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.03.2008 Posts: 1,739
      For me it was a bluff. I wanted to make him fold a better hand. I think I was behind.

      During all the session Vilain raised and reraised.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Silver
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 4,168
      T8s is totally in my 3bet calling range CO vs BB. Bottom range but into range nevertheless.

      Against a lag you don't want to widen your calling range too much, you adapt mostly by 4betting more and opening tighter. Playing solid from a slightly tighter opening range makes it easy as hell to crush these type of player. They are my favorites lol.

      As played nh. Certainly not a bluff though x)
    • Adelardo
      Adelardo
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.03.2008 Posts: 1,739
      I was afraid of him.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Silver
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 4,168
      Did he bite you ? 8-o
    • zetozinho
      zetozinho
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 761
      First of all, the hand is well played imo.
      T8s is not im my calling range vs 3bets from the blinds often, but why not. Would be really the bottom of it.
      If he is very agressive the best thing to do is let him hang himself. And no, I don't advocate calling that turn. I also don't advocate folding vs 3bets.
      Just don't be afraid of any player, no one will bet with one hand pointing a desert-eagle into your face with the other hand. At least at a regular poker room. I don't play poker with the Mafia :D