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[NL2] How to ... here?

    • LeMahdi
      LeMahdi
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2019 Posts: 28
      Your thoughts without looking the results?

      Hero (BTN): 126.5 BB
      SB: 183 BB
      BB: 101.5 BB
      CO: 133.5 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:diamond: T:diamond:

      CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 2 BB

      Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: 6:spade: J:club:
      CO checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB

      Turn: (22.5 BB, 2 players) A:spade:
      CO checks, Hero checks

      River: (22.5 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
      CO bets 123 BB and is all-in,


      Hero calls 116 BB and is all-in

      CO shows 9:club: 9:spade: (Full House, Nines full of Jacks)
      (Pre 51%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)
      Hero shows J:diamond: T:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
      (Pre 49%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
      CO wins 249.5 BB

  • 6 replies
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Silver
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 4,168
      3bet bigger pre (9-10 BB) or not at all, your sizing is useless.
      The overbet is massive enough for you to find a fold OTR and call only with KJ I guess...
    • zetozinho
      zetozinho
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.06.2017 Posts: 761
      I'm mostly calling pre. NL2 players won't squeeze enough to put you in problems and even if you get squeezed you can call or just fold, won't be a great deal.
      3bet is indeed useless with that size. He's calling the very bottom of his range to those sizings even OOP.
      Checking turn is fine, but then river is a bit guessing game when we don't improve and he donks. But if we double barrel, we probably have a 3rd barrel often on spades and broadways, and that would be turning our hand into a bluff.
      I see his Ax check-raising turn often. So checking is ok to me overall.
      Now that river... I'm even raising his 1/3 to 2/3 bets, but that overbet is just ridiculous. Could be a great call, could be a great fold. Overfolding is generally better than overcalling vs the low stakes player pool.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Silver
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 4,168
      Originally posted by zetozinho
      Now that river... I'm even raising his 1/3 to 2/3 bets
      I think we can't even raise here in fact, no matter the sizing. Villain isn't capped at all (unless we happen to have a strong read on his sizing but that never happens lol) and will have a hard time calling worse except maybe AQo or even say ATs because it's NL2 but the rest of the time it's gonna be better Jx and fulls.
      I might minraise with KJ though.
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 902
      I would flat pre, and if I’m raising (and that’s probably never with that hand in position) I would make it 3x.
      Now about the river. I couldn’t ever fold that river, congrats to all you guys who can.
    • herrmutig
      herrmutig
      Gold
      Joined: 18.10.2018 Posts: 130
      Ye tight fold river. Unless you have info that he is doing that with nonsense.

      I really don't see any bluffs here. He literally screams "I'm targeting your Jx".
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,909
      I'm basically gonna repeat what others have already said.
      I would just call pre-flop, and if you decide to 3bet use a bigger sizing because this is pointless.

      Flop and turn are ok but river is a fold. The overbet is huge. You need to win this about 46% of the time to break even. If you include the rake, you need to win even more often.
      Because we made a ridiculous minraise pre-flop, villain still calls that with a wide range, meaning that he has plenty of full houses here. He can also have better trips.