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[NL20-NL50] QQ, weak fold?

    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.07.2008 Posts: 17,163
      No straights or flushes possible, but well, I folded. He said he had QJ in the chat.


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $50,00
      BB:
      $37,12
      MP3:
      $51,40
      Hero:
      $59,69
      BU:
      $50,19

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:diamond: , Q:club:
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2,00, BU calls $2,00, SB folds, BB calls $1,50.

      Flop: ($6,25) J:heart: , 8:diamond: , 5:heart: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4,50, BU folds, BB calls $4,50.

      Turn: ($15,25) 8:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $10,00, BB raises to $30,62 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $55,87
  • 9 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      I'd bet more on flop ~$5 and Bet/Call the turn vs such opponent.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.07.2008 Posts: 17,163
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      I'd bet more on flop ~$5 and Bet/Call the turn vs such opponent.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      Such? His AF is 1,1. Not seen moving anything, etc.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Balanarm
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      I'd bet more on flop ~$5 and Bet/Call the turn vs such opponent.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      Such? His AF is 1,1. Not seen moving anything, etc.
      It's still too small :P , people got much higher AF in 6max.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Because of oppoennt stack size I´d likely bet/call turn, because he might do taht with any draw or Jx, he has there some times 8x, but don´t think he´d play most of times his trips that way.
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.07.2008 Posts: 17,163
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Because of oppoennt stack size I´d likely bet/call turn, because he might do taht with any draw or Jx, he has there some times 8x, but don´t think he´d play most of times his trips that way.
      If not this way, then what way would he play his trips? :baby:
    • Dragar
      Dragar
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Originally posted by Balanarm
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Because of oppoennt stack size I´d likely bet/call turn, because he might do taht with any draw or Jx, he has there some times 8x, but don´t think he´d play most of times his trips that way.
      If not this way, then what way would he play his trips? :baby:
      He would bet hoping you have J and wanting to protect vs draws.

      C/r is well... a lot more things then trips. Trips and 55 beat you, the rest (AJ, JK, JQ, draws) doesn't. Hence its a call because he will have a worse hand more of the times then he has a better hand.

      Also do you think his hand range includes 8x from the blind? Not very likely. Which leaves us with 55.
      55 would c/r flop or lead out flop because of board texture.
      And if he would have 55 I think he'd just call turn and lead out river since he doesn't have to protect against anything.

      So... overall you should be ahead.
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.07.2008 Posts: 17,163
      I asked you what way would he play trips, and you didn't answer. Btw, the answer is : THIS WAY.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Balanarm
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Because of oppoennt stack size I´d likely bet/call turn, because he might do taht with any draw or Jx, he has there some times 8x, but don´t think he´d play most of times his trips that way.
      If not this way, then what way would he play his trips? :baby:
      Likely he would lead out turn or c/r less, smt to 20$.
      But I don´t say that he can´t also shove.
      Just when they shove it seems more draw than made hand.
      And getting there 2,75:1 I´d likely call, rather than fold.
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      In too late, but personally i think an 8 is definately in his range, loose passive types can definately call an 8 pre and they are definately not folding any kind of draw or pair on the flop. But to try and get into the head of a player like this and narrow down their range is a bit of a waste of time when they don't knwo either so i bet/call here also.