[NL20-NL50] NL 20 SH 10 10 in the BB, all-in flop

    • Dragar
      Dragar
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Known players:    
      SB:
      $51.95
      Hero:
      $19.70

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:club: , T:diamond:
      3 folds, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $0.80.

      Flop: ($3.60) 7:diamond: , 9:spade: , 8:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $11.10, Hero raises to $17.90 (All-In), SB calls $6.80.

      Turn: ($39.40) K:heart:
      River: ($39.40) 5:club: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $39.40
  • 9 replies
    • anstaendig
      anstaendig
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.11.2006 Posts: 3,833
      well pretty standard i think...


      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 58.826 % 56.970 % 3.712 % 39.318 % 66+
      Player 2: 41.174 % 39.318 % 3.712 % 56.970 % TdTc
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Looks like a nuts but I don't really know, it's with big variance. I think I would rather prefer to fold because we haven't invested that much into the pot and avoid the variance.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      you are putting 15.4 to win 39.4 so you need 39% i doubt you have any fold equity here. So if you agree with anstaending's range you can put it in here however i think 66 is optimistic.

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 34.697% 32.62% 02.08% 10980 699.00 { TcTd }
      Hand 1: 65.303% 63.23% 02.08% 21282 699.00 { 77+ }

      so against that it's a fold although you could argue additional hands like 109s, J10.
    • anstaendig
      anstaendig
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      Joined: 05.11.2006 Posts: 3,833
      66 might be optimistic but you can eventually add some two-pair combos...
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      He would there get all-in also with 66.
      And sometimes AT or T9
      I think you can´t fold your overpair with oesd.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by csnmf
      you are putting 15.4 to win 39.4 so you need 39% i doubt you have any fold equity here. So if you agree with anstaending's range you can put it in here however i think 66 is optimistic.

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 34.697% 32.62% 02.08% 10980 699.00 { TcTd }
      Hand 1: 65.303% 63.23% 02.08% 21282 699.00 { 77+ }

      so against that it's a fold although you could argue additional hands like 109s, J10.
      Isn't it 28,1%?
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      i worded it wrong, total pot was 39.4 if you call off the additional 15.4
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by csnmf
      i worded it wrong, total pot was 39.4 if you call off the additional 15.4
      2,56+1 = 3,56
      1/3,56 = 28,1%

      Isn't it so or I am wrong.
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      you get 28.1 if it's 15.4/(39.4+15.4)

      Total pot if you shove and get called is 39.4, the shove is 15.4

      so 15.4/39.4 is 39%

      that's how i have always worked it out, maybe i have been wrong this whole time :P