[NL2-NL10] NL50 JJ vs 3bet

    • WildBeans
      WildBeans
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.09.2008 Posts: 586
      the villain is 43/2 in 115 hands AF 6.7 - and 3bet at 4% ... Can I fold Jacks here? Not really I think, because against the conservative estimate of 4% 3bet range, I have 48% equity, and there's already money in the pot so it must be a call? Second question: can I ever fold Jacks in NL50? I suppose only if I have good evidence that the villain is a tight reraiser...

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      BB ($11.55)
      UTG ($50.40)
      UTG+1 ($51.50)
      Hero (MP1) ($9)
      MP2 ($30.40)
      CO ($108.75)
      Button ($42.60)
      SB ($96.60)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J
      [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero bets $1.75[/color], [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], [color:#CC3333]CO raises to $9[/color], [color:#666666]3 folds[/color], Hero calls $7.25 (All-In)

      Flop: ($18.75) 5, A, Q [color:#009B00](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

      Turn: ($18.75) 7 [color:#009B00](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

      River: ($18.75) 8 [color:#009B00](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

      Total pot: $18.75 | Rake: $0.90

      Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
      Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
      CO had A, K (one pair, Aces).
      Outcome: CO won $17.85[/color]
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      I am likely folding my jacks in such situation and that might answer you 2nd question.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hi Wildbeans,

      Against TT+,AQs+ you can shove this fella but against AK+,JJ+ you have to fold

      I suggest you work around yourself with equity to improve your plays & in the end your WR ;)

      - Gerv
    • WildBeans
      WildBeans
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.09.2008 Posts: 586
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Hi Wildbeans,

      Against TT+,AQs+ you can shove this fella but against AK+,JJ+ you have to fold

      I suggest you work around yourself with equity to improve your plays & in the end your WR ;)

      - Gerv
      hmmm. right, I will do that. It's the borderline decisions that I'm finding quite tough.
      So what does that mean for this case. He's at 4% 3bet, after 115 hands, which means it could be a little higher or it could be a little lower. AQs+ TT+ is 3.8%...
      So I'm getting about 1.48:1 pot odds, and if it's AQs+ TT+ then I get 1.25:1 odds so it's fine. But against JJ+ AK+ I only get 1.78:1... so that's a fold. Alright so now I understand that.
      But do I give him AQs+ TT+ because of the 4% 3bet? or is it too few hands? It seems like my play is marginally but possibly correct...?
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      I think 100 hands is not enough for 3bet stats and borderline decisions. So calling here could be high variance. But you could do it for information and note down what hand he's 3betting with.

      But in general I would prefer to fold.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      For 3bet % you need large sample sizes so presuming AK+,JJ+ against tight opponents and AQ+,TT+ against LAG / Fish players can be a good estimation.

      - Gerv