[NL2-NL10] NL 10 FR: anther full house (22)

    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP2 ($6.95)
      Hero (CO) ($14.30)
      Button ($5)
      SB ($7.05)
      BB ($9.90)
      UTG ($10.15)
      MP1 ($1.55)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 2, 2
      3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.90) J, Q, 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($0.90) K (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

      River: ($2.10) J (2 players)
      SB bets $6.05 (All-In), Hero calls $6.05

      Total pot: $14.20 | Rake: $0.70

      Think I made a bad call here cause his range includes KJ and QJ (for an unknown)
      (and also that the hugh overbet here really looks like the nuts, or second nuts)
  • 6 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Flop: I am betting here also because I do it with bluff also.

      As played
      Turn: Betting near pot.
      River: Kinda interesting move but it screams like "call me, I have the nuts", maybe some kind of better FH or something similar, we haven't risked that much money so I guess I'd prefer to fold here. With any stats or some reads we can Call here, did you have any stats on him? Was he kinda loose player? If yes then I might Call some loose players because they could be also pushing with flush or maybe trips. But against a thinking player I don't think that we are ahead.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      So against an unknown (as I mentioned in my original post) you are folding?
    • dallievas
      dallievas
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      Joined: 30.11.2007 Posts: 822
      Hi,
      that Rensu is so quick :D I`ve read this post at night time but was lazy to write something and bah we have evaluation in the morning.Awesome. :)
      Agree on flop and turn.I think you should do cbet (if u do them often).
      On the river like judge said it's opponent dependent but against unknown I'd call
      because I see enough weaker hands that can pay me off- flush,straight,trips ,even
      sometimes sick bluff.Of course u can see the nuts at showdown but u get good read on him-opp is pushing nuts on the river (like Tribun does in coachings).
      Good luck :)
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      I usually c-betting, this time I decided to mix it up a little bit, trying to trap the villain.
      I'm still not sure what's better on the river. I those limits it's very hard to say.
      Sometimes you will find tilting players who will move in with complete air and sometimes you will find fishes who will move in with the nuts with a hugh over bet. (and maybe good players like the coaches over here...? (-:
      It's an interesting issue for micro poker. I would like to hear other opinions.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by maya1984
      So against an unknown (as I mentioned in my original post) you are folding?
      Because there is flush on board and he could have that also I might Call vs unknown. But ye, as you would have played like I said before river then it would be much easier to make the Call for you, now it's pretty hard decision because we have to win such Call more than 75% of the cases to make the Call profitable.
    • dallievas
      dallievas
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      Joined: 30.11.2007 Posts: 822
      My math sophistication:
      Board: Jc Qs 2h Kh Jh
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 71.111% 71.11% 00.00% 32 0.00 { 2c2d }
      Hand 1: 28.889% 28.89% 00.00% 13 0.00 { JJ, AJs-ATs, KJs, QJs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KJo, QJo, JTo }

      EV= (8.15* 0.71)-(6.05*0.29)=5.78-1.75=4.03
      How would say our coach who overuses equilator? :D
      Not every time you should win to be profitable in long term.
      Gl :)