[NL2-NL10] Nl5 FR QQ

    • Tampaloeres81
      Tampaloeres81
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2009 Posts: 1,416
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP1:
      $5,12
      CO:
      $15,50
      Hero:
      $4,79

      0,02/0,05 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $0,20, 2 folds, CO raises to $0,50, Hero raises to $2,10, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $5,12 (All-In), CO folds, Hero calls $2,69 (All-In), MP1 gets uncalled bet back.

      Flop: ($10,15) T:spade: , 3:spade: , J:spade:
      Turn: ($10,15) 8:diamond:
      River: ($10,15) 9:heart: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $10,15

      May be to much to push here since MP1 is tight?
      I got lucky with the deck I guess.
  • 5 replies
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.08.2008 Posts: 2,107
      Thats a tough one because MP1 plays quite tight and nitty so it can be likely that he will have AA, KK maybe AK. If make this just 2 way QQ against a range of JJ+ and AK has 47.4 % equity but it is likely that his push is tighter.

      I would say you are often beat here, but imo you should never fold QQ ;)

      I would like to see what a judge things about this.

      :)
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Don't forget to add to full stack. :P

      Preflop: You could also just Call and play postflop against such opponents, you have position. ;)

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • dallievas
      dallievas
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.11.2007 Posts: 822
      but imo you should never fold QQ

      This is FR and opps are more tight the sh in 3bet pots so QQ can fold.
      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 43.031% 39.40% 03.63% 3506491908 322830328.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      Hand 1: 24.522% 21.50% 03.03% 1912928892 269252032.00 { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AKo }
      Hand 2: 32.447% 30.98% 01.46% 2757080844 130350964.00 { QQ }

      Since CO did small 3bet I'd 4bet/fold.I think I'm way behind their push range especially MP2.
      GL :)
      P.S Rensu have outrun me again. :D
      could also just Call and play postflop against such opponents, you have position

      Ok,it can be an option,but what we do in low 3bet pot with overpair we bet or raise and often will see better overpair or check/fold when see overcards.So why not fold preflop? And you don't know if MP2 4bets,pushes or calls.
    • Tampaloeres81
      Tampaloeres81
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2009 Posts: 1,416
      Hello,

      Yeah it is hard to fold QQ :) Well calling and wait for the flop seems a good option.

      And what if they keep on raising preflop after my call?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Tampaloeres81
      Hello,

      Yeah it is hard to fold QQ :) Well calling and wait for the flop seems a good option.

      And what if they keep on raising preflop after my call?
      You have to get used to it, in some cases you have to fold QQ, FR is more picky with the hands but on NL5 you don't need to because people keep pushing there with very wide range. If they still keep raising you still have the fold button. :)