# Hu Brm

• Bronze
Joined: 27.09.2008
Just quick question...

How many BB for HU should I have?

Is 1000 BB reasonable number? How big is variance in HU?

HU ??/100 hands

TTT
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• Black
Joined: 03.03.2008
My HUHU variance so far is around 23-24BB/100 (18k hands sample)

(also, 6max SD gets up to around 18-19BB/100 as you move up higher)

No idea about the BRM, my preference is at least 1000BBs even for 6max.
I think if you don't have a problem with tilt and you can move down when you run bad, you can pretty much go with the same bankroll as in SH.
• Bronze
Joined: 27.09.2008
Hi!

If we know the variance the task will be easy - let's open Stox on page 219.

P(RiskOfRuin) = e^((-2BW)/(V))

B = banroll, W = winrate, V = variance = SD^2

Yoghi has 3.36BB/100 Winrate, let say that our tolerance of ruin is 1%, therefore for

B = -V * ln(P(RiskOfRuin))/2W

FR: B = -13*13*ln(0.01)/2 = 389BB //WR = 1 BB/100
SH: B = -18*18*ln(0.01)/2 = 746BB //WR = 1 BB/100
HU: B = -23*23*ln(0.01)/(2*3.36) = 362BB //WR = 3.36 BB/100

BR considerations are not bad at all... if you can win this much
So 500-600BB is probably reasonable...

TTT
• Bronze
Joined: 17.11.2007
You made an BIG assumption here with you +3.3 BB/100 I hope for you is is true

Just reduce it to 2BB/100 and you go to 600BB.
• Black
Joined: 03.03.2008
I know these formulas and all, but this tells you nothing about how comfortable you are with swings, etc.

Also in that example you assumed that Yoghi's most probable 'true' winrate is 3.36.
This is true from a statistical standpoint - however in actuality it may or may not be accurate. I'm not saying Yoghi's not a 3BB/100 winner , but IF he's really only a 2BB/100 winner and was running above expectation before, that would change the BR requirements drastically.
• Bronze
Joined: 27.09.2008
That's why I wrote that most probably 500-600 is some reasonable amout that has to be considered...

And because 2/4 is probably the lowest limit where the rake starts to be beatable, HU is still far far away )

TTT
• Black
Joined: 03.03.2008
you can start with HUHU SNGs, it's basically the same game, with very slight differences when the stacks get short

if you play at FTP or Stars you probably won't have to wait too long to get a game either
• Bronze
Joined: 27.09.2008
You are talking about FL HU, right? Because I believe that NL is quite different game ).

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• Black
Joined: 10.09.2007
Hey, stop underestimating me! Up untill now I've been a 4.4BB/100 winner
• Black
Joined: 03.03.2008
Yes, I was talking about FL HUHU SNGs