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[NL20-NL50] NL 50 KK overpair vs. 3-bet push on flop

    • Bizaxta
      Joined: 06.11.2007 Posts: 127
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      8 players
      Converted at

      UTG cuonriver ($37.90)
      UTG+1 Billy Pilgrim 0 ($34.95)
      MP1 HaimonsK ($50.75)
      MP2 BruthaPimp ($62.30)
      CO Bigtooth1 ($48.70)
      BTN molikeu ($30.30)
      SB jfocus ($69.60)
      BB Hero ($82.60)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is BB K K
      1 fold, Billy Pilgrim 0 calls $0.50, 4 folds, jfocus raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, Billy Pilgrim 0 folds, jfocus calls $4

      Flop: Q 3 7 ($12.50, 2 players)
      jfocus bets $7, Hero raises to $25, jfocus goes all-in $63.60, Hero calls $38.60

      Turn: 5 ($139.70, 2 players)

      River: J ($139.70, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $139.70

      Is this a marginal call or is it right? Didn't have any read on the villain yet.
  • 3 replies
    • Jaissica
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      What hands do we expect a regular unknown villain can open-raise, call 3bet then shove that flop with?

      AA, KK, QQ, AQ, AhKh. We are 50/50 vs AhKh, 2-outing vs AA, QQ, beating AQ, splitting KK.

      Obviously you need to throw a 3-bet out on that flop. $25 is probably a little over the top. Its an info bet, not a value bet. Double n half for $18 in a raise-fold line for me.

      I cant imagine we beat much that not-idiot villain will play bet-shove on that flop with.

      Edit - vs the range I named we have 50% equity so bet-shove isnt so bad. However if we remove the AQ from the villain's play range we have 15% equity, which is quite terrible. Im still standing by my 3bet-fold line.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504

      Nice hand, well played. Note him down with what he is doing such move, if it's AA then you know next time to watch out for his tricky moves.

      Best regards,
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d played that hand the same way, you have to put player set or AA to fold there and I think he rather has there weaker hands than AA+