[NL20-NL50] Nl25 Sh Qq

    • nafar84
      nafar84
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.09.2008 Posts: 546
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $30.91
      BB:
      $25.00
      MP2:
      $23.15
      MP3(Hero):
      $27.73
      CO:
      $50.26
      BU:
      $29.26

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.9, BU folds, SB calls $2.80, BB folds, Hero calls $2.05.

      Flop: ($8.95) 3, 4, T (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $5.25, CO folds, SB raises to $11.25, Hero raises to $24.83(All-In), SB calls $13.58.

      Turn: ($58.61) 9 (2 players)

      River: ($58.61) A (2 players)

      Final Pot: $58.61

      Normally I'd 4bet this hand but at the time I thought this was a very peculiar situation:

      Couple of orbits ago CO (who had just joined the table) 3bet me from the same position and ended up stacking me with AA. Not many stats on him.

      SB is normally a fairly straightforward TAG and I've never seen him flatcall a 3bet OOP like that before and I thought the only hand he could do this with was JJ (or QQ but obviously it's much less likely).

      So it was a mixture of uncertainty about CO, and the fact that I could probably stack SB with his JJ if the flop is all undercards, that made me just call instead of 4bet.

      Given the facts, do I 4bet/broke preflop anyway? or 4bet/fold (is that even possible??)
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Preflop: 4Bet/Broke.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • nafar84
      nafar84
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.09.2008 Posts: 546
      Thanks Rensu, SB showed TT for a flopped set. Can I just ask, how profitable is this move for him? Did he know that I will probably call if he calls so he went for set value? I really don't understand this play by him.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by nafar84
      Thanks Rensu, SB showed TT for a flopped set. Can I just ask, how profitable is this move for him? Did he know that I will probably call if he calls so he went for set value? I really don't understand this play by him.
      It's profitable because TT is pretty good hand, it Call still dominate many hands postflop and also possible to hit a SET on flop. The same goes for JJ, QQ against some opponents. He can still play Call/Fold preflop if someone decides to get fancy.
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      I would 4bet broke too there. I don`t really like cc with TT in SB position just because you never know what MP3 is going to do and you can`t really stand a raise with TT.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Because of SB you syhould 4-bet and get it all-in.
      Also you´re oop, don´t see any reason just call pf.