[NL20-NL50] NL50: 2nd pair IP, standard line?

    • mrandom
      mrandom
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      Joined: 30.11.2006 Posts: 311
      Villain is 25/21/2/24, no other notes so far.

      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      4 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      CO ($50.00)
      Hero (BTN) ($139.17)
      SB ($50.60)
      BB ($91.46)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is BTN T:diamond: A:spade:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold

      Flop: 3:heart: J:diamond: 3:club: ($4.50, 2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

      Turn: T:club: ($10.50, 2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: 3:spade: ($10.50, 2 players)
      SB bets $6, Hero calls ???

      Thank you in advance!
  • 8 replies
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      Yeah.

      I would call here.

      Fold is to weak and if u raise u may have to fold on villians reraise.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      I think I would rather prefer to fold on the river, he will very often show you a better hand there. Why should he bet in such situation with worser hands? I don't think so that he will very often here here, only if you have seen him bluffing on river I would have made the Call.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • mrandom
      mrandom
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      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      I think I would rather prefer to fold on the river, he will very often show you a better hand there. Why should he bet in such situation with worser hands? I don't think so that he will very often here here, only if you have seen him bluffing on river I would have made the Call.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      Yeah thats valid point, thank you.

      When I call I hope to beat some of his PP's, but indeed, why would he want bet to bet his 99 for example? :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by mrandom
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      I think I would rather prefer to fold on the river, he will very often show you a better hand there. Why should he bet in such situation with worser hands? I don't think so that he will very often here here, only if you have seen him bluffing on river I would have made the Call.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      Yeah thats valid point, thank you.

      When I call I hope to beat some of his PP's, but indeed, why would he want bet to bet his 99 for example? :)
      His AF is a way too low for such moves, you could also check river AF at this point.
    • Talic
      Talic
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      well for that reason you can 2nd barrel (for cheap showdown)
      if you check turn you def. have to call this river bet, no excuses.
      I can imagine him betting here any PP to get value from A-high + bluffing very often

      check river AF but I think he will have pretty big river AF
    • Alan883
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      He probably does not have 3. And J is the only options here to beat or better pocket.

      With hands like KT or QT and lower pockets he should do the move he did.

      I dont know maybe i am wrong but i would call here without a question.


      Let see what judges will say and then maybe i will learn something new:)
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      heh i was a little bit to late. Judge was faster then me....
    • Talic
      Talic
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      seems like he was :)