[NL2-NL10] NL10 FR 55 ag 3bet

    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $4.00
      BU(Hero):
      $10.30
      SB:
      $2.70
      BB:
      $17.45
      MP1:
      $5.90
      MP2:
      $5.65
      MP3:
      $4.75

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 5, 5.
      MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.5, SB folds, BB raises to $1.5, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($3.15) T, 7, K (2 players)
      BB bets $1.00, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.


      1) Should I muck preflop or setmine with 2:1?
      2) Easy fold flop although it is a 1/3 cbet?
  • 7 replies
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Originally posted by Gerv1) Should I muck preflop or setmine with 2:1?
      It's really opponent defendant, if it's a thinking player he might won't pay you off with his OP/TPTK (if you do flop a set)
      If it's fish player he might go borke with his OP/TPTK

      Since he is deep I'm guessing he is a thinking player so I'm folding to a 3bet.

      Originally posted by Gerv2) Easy fold flop although it is a 1/3 cbet?
      Kinda small bet, I might try to see the turn when I'm IP but usually I'm just folding.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Preflop: Ye fold, go for set mining with Call20 rule, sometimes myself I use Call15.
      Flop: Fold even if it's so small.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Originally posted by veriz
      Preflop: Ye fold, go for set mining with Call20 rule, sometimes myself I use Call15.
      Rensu
      Rensu, what is the call20 rule?
    • dallievas
      dallievas
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.11.2007 Posts: 822
      Hi,
      1) Should I muck preflop or setmine with 2:1?

      yes,u can't play for set here.U can play as pair but very rarely against certain opps.
      Easy fold flop although it is a 1/3 cbet?

      check/fold is the safest option,sometimes can bluff raise/fold to resistance.Need stats for that.

      what is the call20 rule?

      for set mining -your and opp's stack should be= initial raise x20 or 15.
      eg. u have 10+opp have 10,he raises 0.45,so0.45*20=9 can call,if opp have only
      5 in his stack call for set is not profitable.Call 15-20 is bigger than direct odds for
      set (1:7.5) because if u hit set,not every time u manage get his stack.
      GL :)
    • Mstlc
      Mstlc
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      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      Originally posted by maya1984
      Originally posted by veriz
      Preflop: Ye fold, go for set mining with Call20 rule, sometimes myself I use Call15.
      Rensu
      Rensu, what is the call20 rule?
      Call20 is a reference to the stack sizes when you try to set mine. You only wanna call & try to flop a set here if you and the villain still have 20 times the amount you have to call to see the flop behind.

      I'm pretty sure it's described in one of the BSS No Limit articles somewhere but I'll try to give an example and hope I understood the rule properly myself:

      You're playing 0.10/0.25 NLHE:

      CO ($25)
      BU (hero) ($25)
      CO raises to $1
      Hero is BU with 6 6

      You call here... Both you and the villain have 24 times the call behind.
      ------------------------------------------

      CO ($10)
      BU (hero) ($25)
      CO raises to $1
      Hero is BU with 6 6

      You fold. The Villain doesn't have 20 times the amount you have to call behind.
      ------------------------------------------

      CO ($25)
      BU (hero) ($10)
      CO raises to $1
      Hero is BU with 6 6

      You fold. You don't have 20 times the amount you have to call behind.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by maya1984
      Originally posted by veriz
      Preflop: Ye fold, go for set mining with Call20 rule, sometimes myself I use Call15.
      Rensu
      Rensu, what is the call20 rule?
      This article may help you:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/270/
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      ty