[NL20-NL50] TT MP1 - Aggro villain

    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG:
      $23.97
      Hero:
      $20.00

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T:club: , T:spade:
      UTG calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 6 folds, UTG calls $0.80.

      Flop: ($2.30) 9:heart: , J:club: , 5:heart: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.80, UTG raises to $3.60, Hero calls $1.80.

      Turn: ($9.50) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      UTG bets $4.75, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $14.25
  • 8 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Because of his AF I think I would Call the turn bet also and reevaluate river, he can do such moves very often with bluff. He is betting a way too smallish into the pot, looks like a bluff to me.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      Because of his AF I think I would Call the turn bet also and reevaluate river, he can do such moves very often with bluff. He is betting a way too smallish into the pot, looks like a bluff to me.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      once again, his AF is not high


      and I fold flop
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Talic
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      Because of his AF I think I would Call the turn bet also and reevaluate river, he can do such moves very often with bluff. He is betting a way too smallish into the pot, looks like a bluff to me.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      once again, his AF is not high


      and I fold flop
      (Raises% + Bets%) / Calls% = AF

      Calls% = 16 (VPIP)
      Raises% = 4 (PFR)
      AF = 6

      Yes, we can't take only VPIP & PFR for this example, we would need Call% and Raise% & Bet%. But I just made an example.

      Raises%/Calls% + Bets%/Calls = AF
      4/16 + x/16 = 6 -> x = 92
      x = Bets%
      That means he have to be very aggressive because he rarely Calls, very often bets or raises.

      AF < 1 - Passive
      1 < AF < 1.5 - Neutral
      1.5 < AF - Aggressive


      I am waiting for your explanation about the AF. :)
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Originally posted by Talic
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      Because of his AF I think I would Call the turn bet also and reevaluate river, he can do such moves very often with bluff. He is betting a way too smallish into the pot, looks like a bluff to me.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      once again, his AF is not high


      and I fold flop
      Please explain why you fold flop, ty
    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Talic
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello,

      Because of his AF I think I would Call the turn bet also and reevaluate river, he can do such moves very often with bluff. He is betting a way too smallish into the pot, looks like a bluff to me.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
      once again, his AF is not high


      and I fold flop
      Please explain why you fold flop, ty
      from my personal experience c/mir is always a strong hand, I also give a 16/4 more credit although the AF is against it.

      The thing is if he is aggressive and will very often barrel turn (and relatively often river if he hits something or already has something than barrel river) that you cant stand up multiple barrels with your hand. So always make a multi-street plan and dont think like "call flop and re-evaluate turn"

      from 69 hand sample size is pretty hard to know turn barrels and riverbarrels, bet IP, bet if checked..
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      I am still waiting for my explanation.
    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Originally posted by veriz
      I am still waiting for my explanation.
      I am volunteer handjudger I can judge only the hands I want and when I want. I have no patience with you anymore, wait for Kaitz

      6AF is high but is also relative because its 16/4 guy so its not like when 70/26 guy has 3AF
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      6af is high
      You should call on the turn at elast, because he would take that line a lot of times with draws, rather than Jx hands.