[NL2-NL10] Bad fold?

    • daytripper84
      daytripper84
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      Joined: 16.09.2008 Posts: 24
      Note: I know CO is a SSS player..but idk how to convert stats, but they were VPIP of 8 and PFR of 8, with about 35ish hands worth of stats that I had on him.



      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 = ($13.01)
      MP3(Hero) = ($12.84)
      CO = ($1.84)
      BU = ($5.00)
      SB = ($8.58)
      BB = ($2.23)
      UTG2 = ($2.00)
      MP1 = ($10.08)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, CO raises to $1.84(All-In), 5 folds, CO gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $0.65.

      Knowing SSS... I think I made a good lay down, but not quite sure. I appreciate the feedback! ^_^
  • 4 replies
    • Mstlc
      Mstlc
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      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      Originally posted by daytripper84
      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, CO raises to $1.84(All-In), 5 folds, CO gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $0.65.

      Knowing SSS... I think I made a good lay down, but not quite sure. I appreciate the feedback! ^_^
      Even if the shorty is a real SSS player like we know them you can NEVER fold here.

      IF he is following SSS by the letter his range here is: JJ/QQ/KK/AA & AK

      Aces & Kings put you behind... 20/80. Jacks however put you 80/20 in front. vs AK you are 55/45 ahead & Queens are obviously 50/50. So judging by these stands it's best to fold BUT you already invested 40c into the pot, the pot is $2.13 at that point. You only have to call $1.43 to win a $3.56 pot. Meaning you only have to win the showdown 2 out of 5 times to break even...

      Unless my calculations are really off, you snap here.
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
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      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      If you raise QQ+ vs shorty, shove it.

      If someone raises and shorty shoves both in front of you, this is the only time you can lay down QQ.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Here is anther way to look on this hand:
      You are ahead of more then 50% of his range with QQ.
      You are getting 1:1.6 on you money. This means that if you win one time out of 2.6 you getting EV+

      It's really an insta-call...
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Easy +ev call with QQ against any shorties range. Read above explanations for more detail ;)