This week, we proceed to the NL silver graduation exam, so take a shot at our latest edition of the quiz of the week.
In contrast to last week, you have to deal with trickier and more marginal spots this time and you should know your way around equity to pull through. It's a good way to check your knowledge about this very basic tool for every poker player.
This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by Jaissica: 12.05.2009 05:45.
What do we expect opponent can check-raise with in Q12, or for that matter 3bet flop with in Q11?
Standard opponent will just call with Ax and alot of pocket pairs. The only thing any reasonable player would check-raise-broke with here is 45s/56s / 44.
Strange to so quickly throw away bet-fold lines. You arnt getting to SD for less than a stack vs anything check-raisable -
Flop pot $4.25, stacks $48
Hero bets $3.5
Villain raises to $10
Turn pot $31.25, stacks $34.50
Reasonable villain is probably shoving turn with any hand that was worth check-raising so what have we achieved with calldown WA/WB apart from seeing a turn? Not a thing.
Checking would be an oddly passive play as we get no value from hands that will likely call (Ax, some pocket pairs). Slowplay is bizzare with TPTK regardless of board texture vs anything but a bad maniac. It would greatly amuse me to see hero check flop, run into a turned set then cry about "how lucky" the villain was after losing a big pot "calling down bluffs".
Given the range a reasonable opponent could call from BB then check-raise (44, 45s, 34s) I am bet-folding to get value from Ax or just take the pot down right there. Greedy slowplayers deserve the burning they can get with TPTK.
I'm a SSS player and I've never played SH or read anything about it, but I got 22 points, which is not bad. On the other hand I agree with you that there's not much point in a bronze or silver exam involving SH when SH isn't covered by bronze or silver.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Fongie: 12.05.2009 15:01.
27/31 :/ I failed at shipping AA against a set there (that was a silly mistake) and also I had a hard time deciding wheither both opponents having FH chances (which I now realise doesn't matter because if 1 has it its the same chance) or the 2 extra ace-outs was worth more... I decided wrong
Fun to see Jaissica trying to argue his way out of a bad score again
Oh and Brood... you used the equilator and still didn't get 100%? Wtf?
I thought they said in the start not to use it
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by gambleris: 12.05.2009 23:03.
I dont think you have ever seen me. I don't even have account on mansion. My nick on Pokerstars was totally different. About year ago i was playing SSS up to NL100 there. Of course, i followed BRM. Had platinum status on pokerstrategy. Currently, i don't play poker at all, because lack of time, so i sometimes read forums and try quizes
I made a mistake on 6th question. We're 4-handed - why don't we consider that sometimes we're against a higher flushdraw there, especially when we face a raise and a reraise? Our flush outs are dead there and our equity decreases. It's not mentioned enywhere in the explanations and I think it's important.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Fongie: 14.05.2009 12:21.
You seriously want to fold AK on an A44 board to a checkraise? Wow
Let me put it this way... I c/r (or float) boards such as this very often as a bluff when villain open raised from a weak position (like CO, where he can have many other things than an ace). Only against people I know don't think very much and cant realize I wouldn't raise a 4 and I wouldn't raise an A either so I can only be bluffing
I play bet/call(down) here to let him keep bluffing. He very rarely has a 4 here
I don't really like the check option though that's for sure. Induce a bluff? Well, I think if they want to bluff they will do it over our cbet anyway
Yeah, but im folding to your re-raise and noting it, since its so rare. If it happens a few times im going to (hopefully!) react
If you floated we would be close to committed by the turn anyway, so if you raised my 2nd barrel :\ dont think anyone would be folding then.
Its a really, really bad flop for a float or a bluff into the PFR IMO. Dont know how often we figure PFR is either defensive enough to often lay down TP (hi) or doesnt have an ace.
I think if we attack the pot here we had better have what we are representing most of the time
If we dont have it we are often bluffing with either 2 outs or backdoors. I like the quote "always leave yourself an out", but I dont like taking it to literally mean "1 is okay"