[NL20-NL50] KQo BB - blind defense

    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $46.27
      Hero:
      $20.00
      BU:
      $8.30

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:heart: , Q:spade:
      5 folds, BU raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($1.20) A:club: , K:diamond: , 7:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BU bets $0.40, SB folds, Hero calls $0.40.

      Turn: ($2.00) 8:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1.20, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $3.20

      What does a minraise pf usually mean?
  • 6 replies
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      Minraise PF is often either of two things -

      *A bad weak player's steal-with-garbage
      *aces (well, as far out as AKo+, QQ+ from some idiots) trying to suck you into a hand

      Its also some bad-o-matic's standard preflop raise, but thats fairly rare and youll quickly note it.

      Cant find a fold for 20c on preflop though. Might as well take a look, after all you have about 40-1 implieds and a 20% chance to crack aces anyway. Edit - we could also fire a light 3bet active blind defence / squeeze here, especially with SB's dead money in the pot. BU's ORL is 25 so we are in front of enough of his range to risk it sometimes, but if we are called or raised we should give up fairly lightly. If we had raised we would cbet-fold the flop.

      On the flop we hit MPGK. Enough to donk into the PFR for info for me. Bet 80c and if you get called or raised, give up. Its not a big drawing board so a call or a raise probably means some sort of ace, and even ace-rag has you smashed here.

      As played kinda hard not to call 40c. We should ask ourselves why the BU' hand is only worth 1/3rd pot on the flop but suddenly worth 3/5ths pot bet on the turn. Is BU holding a monster but scared a little of a backdoor flush, or did BU put in a small flop bet to see if anyone had an ace to re-raise with, with intent of stealing the pot on the turn if answered in the negative? In any case we dont hold the backdoor flush draw so we fold to it.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,696
      i think i would squeeze here, its a 3way pot, SB is 95% of the time weak, BU may be slowplaying a monster but is more often holding a weak hand as well. so squeeze and collect the dead money. even if BU calls, he may still be holding a weak hand, so proceed with caution. of course if he 4 bets you are most of the time dominated
    • Dragar
      Dragar
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Hi just 3-bet pre-flop. A min-raise is just idiotic by villain.

      Bet flop.
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      Just curious Brood - whats your long term VPIP vs PFR and AF?

      You seem to call-along quite a bit so im wondering if you are around 18-10 ish and under 1.5 AF. If you often call garbage from the BB / SB because its cheaper we might have a "half way there" (ive paid 20c, so ill call 20c) leak in your game.
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Originally posted by Jaissica
      Just curious Brood - whats your long term VPIP vs PFR and AF?

      You seem to call-along quite a bit so im wondering if you are around 18-10 ish and under 1.5 AF. If you often call garbage from the BB / SB because its cheaper we might have a "half way there" (ive paid 20c, so ill call 20c) leak in your game.

      This is for NL20 for this year:

      Hands - VPIP - PFR - ORL - AF - W$SD - Rake - BB - $
      15,585 - 13.2 - 9.6 - 31.4 - 2.9 - 52.5 - 124.93 - 3.7 - 114.04

      WSD: 22.1%

      btw, is W$WSF = 39.1% ok?
    • darkonebg
      darkonebg
      Headadmin
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      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 9,508
      Hello,
      Its fine, W$@SD is more important.
      For the hand, I treat minraisers as two limps,untill opponent proves otherwise,and raise it up.
      A call isnt good with your hand. If you are uncomfortable with the potential of playing OOP, fold it.
      Best regards,
      darkonebg

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